Daring To Mention Crochet

SharonC wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 11:54 AM

Sandi, I've never understood the conflict myself. These days, when I'm positively sick of a wip, I usually switch to a crochet project. Doing something totally different does the trick. Both are fun, and fulfilling. I just realized something, though. I've never made a crocheted garment. Maybe it's time!

LaurieA wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 12:03 PM

Dear Sandy:
I've been cabling for 35 years now (I started when I was 1?) and you can really get a fine groove going on them! Try separating each cable pattern or repeat with markers at first, before the pattern is established. Before knitting, figure out the total number of rows when your cabling occurs; in other words, if you have a 6-row and an 8-row repeat, make sure you pay attention on rows 6,12, 18, 24 etc. and on rows 8, 16, 24 and 32 etc. sometimes they'll even intersect, and there's a whole lot of twisting going on! Oh, it sounds a lot more complicated than it really is, and it really is wonderful--just as great as lace work or socks, or any other knitting, come to think of it. Thanks to your marvelous webstuff, I am knitting MORE daily than before, and it's great--YAY!
Laurie Anderson
laurieangelcat@yahoo.com

LesleyM wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 12:11 PM

I don't think it's always an issue of hatred. I'd guess it's more of a disinterest. I wouldn't subscribe to Crocheting Daily nor would I subscribe to a newsletter that was half and half. The reason isn't because I hate crochet, it's just that it's not of any interest to me.

WendyH wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 12:40 PM

I prefer knitting to crochet myself. I used to crochet doileys - and loved doing it. But knitting became my passion for some reason...maybe because I think the stitch definition varies so much with knitting vs. crochet. Anyway, I am glad that I know how to crochet because it has come in handy with my knitting (picking up dropped stitches, crocheting edges on my knitting, etc.) I think there is room in this world for both.

GJabouri wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 1:54 PM

Hi all, I would like to keep Knitting Daily for knitting issues only, please. Why not start another newsletter called Crochet Daily? - I like both techniques equally, but when I open Knitting Daily I expect tips/articles/patterns/comments about knitting.

By the way, after seeing Bertha for the first time in this newsletter I immediately realized what a great help this would be to my fitting issues. So I bought a dress model a while ago, and just last weekend found time to actually pad it to my ... ummmh ... specifications. That was eye-opening! - lol - ("What? I STILL need to add more padding here?!?"). After I was done, I asked my husband to compare us visually. After he stopped laughing, (because I was standing in my underwear next to my masking-taped, padded dummy), he said that we're just about equal. So I dressed her up a bit, and am now planning my first, truly fitted-to-me sweater. Hey SANDI, you didn't forget about the bust-dart tutorial, did you???

NinaT wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:13 PM

I personally believe some things look better knitted than crocheted, which is why I picked up the sticks again after a long time away. But if I'm going to make an afghan, I'm going to crochet it. For me, it's faster. I currently have 2 crochet WIPs, and 6 knit WIPs. I agree with Wendy H, crocheting is a handy skill when you knit.

TurquoizB wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:30 PM

About time, Sandi! I've been waiting for you to use the "C" word.

T.B.

JascinthW wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:37 PM

Don't mind either art myself. I think both have their strong points, and it's just now that I'm seeing some STRONG crochet designs out there (have been crocheting off and on for the past 10 years). I wish that you'd do some crocheted toys though, like arigumi. Those are the cuteness!

Yannick wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:44 PM

Knitting & Crochet - squabbling siblings as they may be - both bring us awesome projects. And then, there are the days where the actually get along, and projects with both mixed come along. What a treat those are!

EricaK wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:44 PM

Knitting and crochet are best friends. But their other friends (people) are jealous of their close friendship, so they try to keep them apart! Shame on us all. I think a crochet border on a knit item is gorgeous! And yes, I am a little bit crazy! :)

erica :)

ChrisC wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:47 PM

Up until about 2 years ago I only knew how to crochet. (I taught myself to knit) The ONLY snarkiness I ever encountered in regards to the "rivalry" was when I went to my LYS of all places! When I asked for more crochet patterns they literally looked down their noses at me as though I was covered in rats....I didn't bother to tell them that THEY should ADORE crocheters, because a project uses 3x as much yarn as with knitting......

MarinU wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:48 PM

Ugh. Problem is, I don't crochet. I did a little, once, but I have limited interest it crocheting. I don't care if other people do it. I don't think knitting is better -- it's just what I do.

I do get particularly peeved, though, when I shell out bucks for a magazine called KNITTING something or a book called KNITTED something and it has a bunch of crochet patterns in it. The idea that people should do both if they're going to do either (which is what forcing me to buy crochet patterns amounts to) or that knitting and crocheting are somehow the same because they both use yarn... well, that does get under my skin.

And, frankly, I'd like you (and the people at the bookstores who keep putting the crochet books in with the knitting books) to separate the crochet patterns into their own segment so I can just skip them. It's not the end of the world, but it is mildly frustrating to get all excited about something when I'm browsing, only to find it's something I can't do.

JulieS@12 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:49 PM

I love to finish knit items with crochet, which is something I learned from my friend's mother 40 years ago (or more). This nearly always looks fabulous. So I love both arts. Although I knit 99% of the time, I'm planning on crocheting a baby blanket to go with the knit baby hoodie for my friend's grandson (and yes, it's the same friend whose mother taught me to crochet!!)

EnglishL wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:49 PM

I don't hate crochet, but I'd much rather knit. I would not have signed up for Knitting and Crochet Daily. I'll be happy if you keep the crochet out of my Knitting Daily.

KathleenReichenbach wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:53 PM

I agree with Marin. I have stopped purchasing books and magazines that pass themselves off as knitting but include crochet. No hatred, just disinterest.

MargaretR wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:53 PM

My mother taught me to knit when I was about 6. I taught myself to crochet when I was about 12. I love both. I also sew, tat, embroider, needlepoint, etc. I use whatever technique works best for what I want to make. For example, I crocheted a sweater for my daughter when she was small, because crochet made a thicker warmer garment (she ice skated) and I liked the stitch pattern, although I usually knit sweaters, socks, gloves, etc. I usually crochet lace edgings, and afghans or doilies because the edges don't curl and there are so many techniques to use. The more ways to use fiber the merrier!

Mary AlyceH wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:58 PM

It's not either/or. Some things, like garments, are better in knitting. Crochet garments have zero stretch recovery. That same lack of stretch means crochet makes wonderful edgings, and faster than knitting them too. Maybe we should all speak more inclusively. All spinners, weavers, needle artists of all descriptions, -- yes, even the hookers! -- should call themselves fiber workers, fiber crafters, something like that.

Slws wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:59 PM

I think it would be more sensible to have a separate crochet "daily". I am personally not interested in crochet as I have barely enough time to knit. Can't we keep this knitting specific and allow those who are interested in both to subscribe to two groups?

KarenS@7 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:59 PM

I agree with you wholeheartedly Sandi! I taught myself to crochet 15 years ago, and love to crochet. After 12 of those 15 years, I felt that there was nothing in crochet I hadn't done, and needed to challenge to myself a little. I had always wanted to learn to knit, so I taught myself to knit as well. I'm not saying that crochet isn't without it's challenges, I just needed to learn something new.

Before I learned to knit, people would make comments to me like, "Oh, you only crochet" or "Knitting takes a more concentrated mind." Excuse me!?!?! Those comments were insulting, for all the reasons you mention in your post and then some. I have never understood that need to make comparisons or to judge. If you enjoy it - do it - be it crochet, knitting, or any other type of needlework.

More often than not, I've received comments like "Wow, I wish I could do that." or "you are so talented" - both while knitting and while crocheting. WHile there are many of us online who love these activities, compared to the population as a whole there are so many more people in the world who have yet to learn these types of skills. I think we should each be proud of what we can do, and share in our ability to create together!!

If you don't like the crochet patterns, skip them, and vice versa. It's not the end of the world.
We're all in this together!!

NancyJ wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 2:59 PM

To be well-rounded, you should be able to both knit and crochet...and you need to crochet for some parts of knitting. However, this 'blog' is just an extended ad for Interweave.

Adrienne C wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:00 PM

I don't know how to crochet (aside from super-simple things like single crochet or seaming using crocheting), but it's definitely on my list of things I want to learn someday! So I personally don't mind seeing crocheted things sneak in once in a while since I have an interest in them anyway. And in some ways, seeing what is out there in the world of crochet is a constant reminder of this new skill that I want to pick up someday soon. =)

Vicki wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:03 PM

I started out crocheting, and I still crochet toys (my son loves the teddy bears and the elephant that I've made for him!), but I basically just knit now - I find that I have an easier time maintaining an even gauge when I knit.

SharonH wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:04 PM

There's nothing wrong with crochet, but I don't like the way it looks unless it's openwork. It's ugly and too bulky to my eye. I'm not going to say either one is better though, because people have different tastes.

Also, I can knit all day but after a few rows of crochet, my hands ache. I'll do borders and my grandmother's pot holder recipe in it but it's just not worth it otherwise.

Julia@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:06 PM

I agree about keeping crochet in a separate newsletter. I don't crochet and am not interested in subscribing to a newsletter with articles about crochet. They're both yarn crafts, yes, but different crafts. Please keep Knitting Daily about knitting.

Sybina wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:09 PM

I agree, why can't we just "get along". Both crafts are wonderful and both use yarn in so many wonderful ways. I started out as a crocheter but now proudly add knitter as one of my titles and gladly teach other crocheters the joy that is knitting.

Angie

KatherineH wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:11 PM

This is such a boring topic. Are we going to do knitting vs. tatting too? Needlepoint? Cross-stitch? Bobbin lace?

I was raised to know how to do stuff with my hands, whether it was cooking, sewing, gardening, touch-typing, or yeah, needlework. I don't understand this need to separate out different skill sets. And for those who know how to knit but not crochet (or vice versa) -- sooooo, why are you limiting yourself? I hate drop spindles but I did try using them!

RitaW wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:11 PM

I have to side with the group that would like to keep knitting and crochet in separate newsletters. I can do both but prefer knitting. My time for browsing is limited and when I do have time, it's nice to know that Knitting Daily is really about knitting stuff that I am interested in.
Rita W

DonnaS wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:11 PM

Well, I'm a beginner at knitting that knows there is crochet in her future. I've seen a shawl I want to do and it requires single chain crochet along the edging. Gulp - I've tried single chain once before and felt like a teenage girl on heels for the first time. But it is like anything else, practice makes perfect. As to my preference of knitting over crochet, I think they both have their place. Once I've worked with crochet more, I'm sure that I will enjoy it, too.

Donna S.| 19 SEP 07

JeriB wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:11 PM

I'm a knitter and the daughter of a crocheter. I don't mean to start a rumble but, personally, I'd prefer that knitting daily were about knitting.

RobinH@3 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:12 PM

I was taught to crochet first, but have been knitting for a couple of years. I often pull out crochet hooks during knitting projects. (I find it much easier to use a crochet hook for three-needle bind offs.) I see merit in both.

If you want a chuckle, watch the Wooly Bullies [sic] on You Tube. It's a spoof documentary that pits knitters against crocheters...think Spinal Tap for the fiber arts community. It's absolutely hilarious.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JZcUjYpjKZs

Melodie wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:18 PM

I guess I must be bi, bi-yarn that is. I have never figured out the battle between the two skills, crochet and knitting. Personally I think it is a jealousy thing, like sisters. I learned to crochet from my mom when I was little and taught myself to knit a couple years ago. I like both...for different reasons. I also machine knit, I wonder if that is another dirty word. I like to machine knit the boring stuff since miles of stockinette is tedious. I love to crochet edges on knitted items, they lay flat and can be more versatile. I taught myself to knit because I love the look of snugly sweaters. I also have a thing for lacy crocheted shawls and tops. I would go insane trying to knit some of the cardi's I've crocheted, too time consuming. Besides the little bitty hooks seem less depressing that itty bitty needles.

So yep, I am bi. I buy yarn and I buy hooks and needles too!

Melodie

RosemaryN wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:19 PM

Knitting and Crocheting both have their place in our fiber creations. Learning both gives one a better understanding of how the fiber works and the merits of using either medium to achieve the desired result.

As for cables, I am a passionate knitter/cabler. I agree that setting up with markers helps at the beginning in some of the very complicated Arans I do and I prefer to use a cable needle of the same size as my knitting needles so that I maintain gauge and knitting off the cable needle is easier. Further, a J hook cable needle is the best for some items. Others, I use straight or indented cable needles.
Thanks for KD, it is a highlight of my day. And, if something does not interest me, like everyone else, I have a delete key.
Keep up the good work.
Rosemary N

MarnieM wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:21 PM

I agree with several commnets here. I don't "hate" crochet, but I expect to see knitting content here please. This post actually makes two days in a row that are dedicated to the quarterly launch of IC.

catmomnw wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:23 PM

Yep, me too. I've done both for years and do both continually, although I usually prefer to knit these days. I have no disrespect for crochet at all.

This hissing reminds me of the terminology war between felters, knitted felters and fullers. Yikes! I'm still not sure why that is either.

Eliza wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:26 PM

Crocheting is great (and I LOVE that dress!), but I don't know how to do it and I'm not really interested in learning. I'm really into knitting and honing my knitting skills; there's just so much in knitting to hold my attention.

I also agree with Marin. Just because they both involve needles and yarn doesn't mean that when I pick up a knitting magazine I am also interested in crochet patterns. Yes, there's some overlap. But what I do is knit.

Frithgowan wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:29 PM

I have nothing against crochet, and I've been learning more crochet techniques the past couple of years. However, I would be disappointed to see more than the occasional crochet plug/pattern in Knitting Daily. It's the same reason I don't want to see a bunch of cross-stitch, macrame, or pottery-making content. It's called "Knitting" Daily.

JeanneM wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:32 PM

you ask about including crochet in Knitting Daily. Then be honest up-front about it and call it Knitting and Crochet Daily. Frankly I think an awfully lot of crochet is rather klutzy looking. I can crochet, I had to learn from my Mother when I was ten years old and have not liked it ever since (now 75 yrs old and still don't do it by choice) Or better yet start another 'Daily' and call it Crochet Daily

JillW@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:37 PM

I learned to knit at age 6 and crochet at age 8 & adore both crafts. I love knitting cables - the more complex the better, but as a felter too, I find that I prefer the way felted crochet looks, certainly in purses, as it loses the stitch definition completely and has much less stretch. But really that's a different topic all together. I love both knit and crochet equally and happily switch from socks on dpns to crochet scarves, purses, etc. I consider myself lucky that I learned both crafts at such an early age.

annekaelber wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:41 PM

I understand both sides of the "issue": together AND apart. My own stance though comes in on the clear separation side.

Sure, crochet is great and makes beautiful borders and all that....but when I'm hunting for *knitting* things---or excited about reading the new KNITTINGDaily, it's a huge let-down to realize I've been tricked or fooled or bamboozled...again.

I love the idea of a CrochetDaily---and I'm sure the many Crocheters who also knit but think of Crochet as their "dominant" craft would like to see that as well.

Sorry to be a "wet blanket" and push the sisters apart again. Lines have to be drawn on separating crafts and this is where I draw mine.

DianaR wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:42 PM

Finally! At last! thank you knittingdaily for bringing up an on-going SUBJECT between Knitters and Crocheters and the feud that unfortunately continues. Someone once asked me who was the better dsncer, Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly. Answer: They are pristine in their own right. Just as Knitting and Crochet are. Crochet is no longer your grandma's granny squares. The national conferences are great. The designers and renowned teachers are always showing new techniques and stitches. With all the beautiful yarns today, Crochet is no longer bulky; different size hooks, lighter yarns, more fabric like feel.. Crochet has opened to new dimensions. I don't know
where the snobbery began, but let's hope we can end it. There is enough controversy in the world. Both Crocheters and Knitters cloth everyone. Happy crocheting and Knitting to everyone.

DianaR wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:42 PM

Finally! At last! thank you knittingdaily for bringing up an on-going SUBJECT between Knitters and Crocheters and the feud that unfortunately continues. Someone once asked me who was the better dsncer, Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly. Answer: They are pristine in their own right. Just as Knitting and Crochet are. Crochet is no longer your grandma's granny squares. The national conferences are great. The designers and renowned teachers are always showing new techniques and stitches. With all the beautiful yarns today, Crochet is no longer bulky; different size hooks, lighter yarns, more fabric like feel.. Crochet has opened to new dimensions. I don't know
where the snobbery began, but let's hope we can end it. There is enough controversy in the world. Both Crocheters and Knitters cloth everyone. Happy crocheting and Knitting to everyone.

DianaR wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:42 PM

Finally! At last! thank you knittingdaily for bringing up an on-going SUBJECT between Knitters and Crocheters and the feud that unfortunately continues. Someone once asked me who was the better dsncer, Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly. Answer: They are pristine in their own right. Just as Knitting and Crochet are. Crochet is no longer your grandma's granny squares. The national conferences are great. The designers and renowned teachers are always showing new techniques and stitches. With all the beautiful yarns today, Crochet is no longer bulky; different size hooks, lighter yarns, more fabric like feel.. Crochet has opened to new dimensions. I don't know
where the snobbery began, but let's hope we can end it. There is enough controversy in the world. Both Crocheters and Knitters cloth everyone. Happy crocheting and Knitting to everyone.

SaraJ wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:43 PM

OOoooooooooo! When I saw the Fall 07 Crochet preview, this hooded vest was what jumped out at me as the first project I'd try, heck, it says "Easy" (the no arms thing probably contributes to that . . .) With all the great long-sleeve tops out there, often a long-sleeve jacket, even lightweight, can be too much in the transitional parts of Autumn . . . WOOOHOOO! Freeeeeeee!

Oh, and the addition of a hood to a/the vest? PERFECT! Sometimes a breath of nip in the air will hit the back of your neck and/or go down it, so perfect to have a hood.

Will I have the courage to make it? Not sure. I guess it depends on my other plans (happily browsing Ravelry with various search criteria on Interweave tops to find one that is easy enough yet not too plain - then again, I get fearful of any, in the same way that made me set aside the idea of Tomato, so I guess we'll see . . .)

On another note, I just got a vintage booklet with 100+ crochet edgings in it, holy schmoly! Quite a few I can see being combined or mirrored or other ways as a scarf, aside from the edging a knit factor, or as inset bands, etc . . . and then of course theirs the hairpin and broomstick lace stuff I've inherited from an Aunt, in addition to knitting needles, dpns, knitting notions, and some vintage knitting books (like a 1030+ Knit Stitches Mon Tricot thing!!!)

Oh, and I'm designing a knit scarf, that is like nothing I've seen (granted I'm fairly new, but I surf ALOT). Ambitious, I s'pose, but when a design calls . . . now I just have to figure out how to get the effects, and get them combined, like I want! Alot of this has nothing to do with your KD post, but alot of it does, and hey, we're all friends here . . .

Rebecca S wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:44 PM

Crocheting is not Knitting, and knitting is not crocheting. They are completely different. I learned to crochet and knit when I was about 5 years old and this point was plainly made by my very patient mother. Don't assume that what interests knitters will interest crocheters and vice versa. That is the basis of what some have termed a "fued". Neither is better - just different.The crochet fans deserve their own web blog. They shouldn't be made to wade through a bunch of knitting chatter to get to what interests them!
Please start a CrotchetingDaily!

ErinD wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:47 PM

This is completely unrelated, but I'm planning my first ever colorwork knitting project (the cactus sweater in Knitscene) and would like to know if you could do a post or two in the near future on colorwork techniques, as I really have No Idea what I'm doing and don't have a human resource nearby to ask for help.
Thanks so much, and keep up the great work with knitting daily, I look forward to the posts everyday :)

JoylaG wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:48 PM

I started out crocheting & have just figured out knitting in the last few years. I like them both. As you say, each has it's own unique way to twist yarn. I appreciate being able to talk about both through Knitting Daily.

Fayette wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:48 PM

I was going to link to the uTube video too!

I don't personally care if crochet shows up in KnittingDaily or if there is a separate CrochetDaily because I'll just subscribe to both! However, I defer to the knitters who have no interest in crochet and say that they probably should be separate.

I learned to crochet first and found it much easier to be creative with it, but I got addicted to knitting recently. These days I'm mostly knitting but I love my roots in crochet.

LaurelH@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:52 PM

I definitely don't get the feud, though I agree that they are different beasts. That's why it's so great to be able to do both: that many more options for creativity! As for me, my yarn/thread/string projects tend to be knitted or crocheted in equal number, or, of course, both!
P.S. I have never crocheted a "groovy" granny square and I don't plan to. Crochet can be used for plenty of other things these days.

Dorisjchan wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:53 PM

Sandi, you ROCK! I consider myself bi-textural; I can knit passably, but I design crochet. The comment about "klutzy crochet" being around is majorly unfair. There is some klutzy knitting around as well. I totally get why some knit-centric subscribers are starting to grouse about the mention of crochet in Knitting Daily. I would understand if, in an effort to please them, you never mention it again. That would be sad. I am just pleased that you had the courage to go there. THANKS!

LisaH@4 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:54 PM

When I saw that photo of the crocheted dress all I could think was "I need that pattern!" When I scrolled down, to my delight, there it was! Thank you, thank you! I will need a bit more crochet experience under my belt before I attempt it but what a motivator! I was happy to see you mention crochet. I especially love patterns that combine both knitting and crochet and would like to see more. I've made a couple scarves that combine the two and recently added a crochet edging to a shawl--the edging made it just a bit more special.

sarahkc wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:54 PM

I believe that part of the tension rises from having one craft being mistaken for the other, and a dismissive attitude about their differences. People want the respect that their skills deserve, not to be just lumped in with yarn stuff. They are different, and most have a preference for one over the other. Most of the time when a book or magazine attempts to combine the two, they displease both groups. When I want to crochet, I seek out crochet resources, and when I want to knit, I go for the knit stuff. The combination approach leaves much to be desired in what it offers to either craft.

I think much more is made of the rivalry of the two crafting groups. I like to joke about it. I admit to my past as a hooker and confess relapses to my knitting friends jokingly. Sometimes style, project choices, and personality have more to do than craft choice. Think of a group of crafters where one is crocheting toilet paper cozies, one is knitting fair isle, one is crocheting the lace dress featured today, and another is knitting Fun Fur scarves. I think these differences are more telling than hook versus needle.

There is also the fiber/yarn issue. Crocheting requires more yarn than knitting. I think this is why more crocheters use less expensive synthetics than knitters. The natural versus synthetic debate is sometimes at the heart of the crochet versus knit issue.

VyvyanN wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 3:56 PM

I've never put out a vote on this issue before but I now feel compelled. I also like the idea of keeping crochet in its own blog. I like crochet to an extent but its not what I'm passionate about. There are many other publications specifically for crochet so when the time comes, I'll buy/read them. But for now, give me as near to 100% knitting content and I'm happy. I haven't reseached this but I have a feeling that most crochet books and mags don't pack in a bunch of knitting projects. And if there isn't a reason to keep them separate, why is there now an Interweave Crochet? Are there knitting projects in those issues?

Yarndork wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:02 PM

I go both ways as well. My mom and her dad both knit, and since my mom knit, I learned how to crochet. You know, cause anything my mom did wasn't cool. My Nana taught me when I was around 9 or so. I've been doing it ever since. One spring 2 years ago, we were selling our house, and I had packed up all my WIP's to make the house look, you know, and I realized I had left one thing in a desk drawer. It was a knitting kit, bought ages ago, and never touched. I was missing yarn so much, I thought, why not? The hat turned out, well, like a first attempt at knitting. But, I liked it so much, I crawled up in my attic and got down some yarn to play some more. Fast forward to now, I've won 3 1st place ribbons at my state fair, a couple of 2nd's, and a few 3rd's. All for knitting.

I alternate between what I like the best, I thnk it depends on my mood. I do love knitting socks, but there's nothing like whipping out a big granny square blanket in a weekend either. Knowing and loving both crafts, I think I have to second the thought of keeping the "Daily"'s separate, though. Unless you want to call this "Yarn Daily" or something like that. There's nothing I dislike more than false advertising. I can't tell you how many books I've picked up that say they have "knitting AND crochet patterns", and then inside, I'll find 48 knitting patterns, and perhaps 3 crochet. Likewise, if I see something for needlepoint, I don't want to pick it up and have it be cross-stitch. I like both of those as well.

Well, hope this comment helps somehow. For the record, I'd subscribe to a "Crochet Daily" too.

Ewedevil wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:05 PM

boy oh boy - ya might not want to mention that 'c' word anymore! yikes.
i'm a spinner, knitter and crocheter. i love it all! i'd absolutely subscribe to a CrochetDaily!
it seems that i'm on the opposite side of the fence than most of your readers. i love to combine and play with the sister arts. seeing a knit pattern with crochet embellishments makes me giddy. while i can knit (and rather well) i 'speak' crochet. heck, i dream in crochet! so if this is a feeler for a crochetdaily, count me in! :-P
~rebecca

Mary BethB wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:15 PM

i log on to read about knitting tips, projects, get new techniques and patterns. i have nothing against crochet but...can't they have their own place to go?

KatherineG wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:15 PM

I love both, and think each has its place. I know people knit afghans, but I can't even imagine doing so- I would rather crochet. My home has loads of crocheted doilies scattered on tabletops. But I learned to knit to make garments- I don't think I've ever found a crocheted garment pettern that I really liked. I also think crocheting can add a lovely edge to a knitted garment; sometimes just the right finishing touch!

PapatyaC wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:15 PM

Wow. It IS complicated. I think it's two-fold: 1. People who don't know what they're witnessing often mistake knitting for crochet. That upsets the knitters. 2. Crochet just looks so darned "home-made"!!! I heard somewhere that in the olden days the working class often crocheted, while the upper class knitted. Personally, I think they're two completely different skills and looks, and like cross-stitch and needlepoint, ne'er the two shall meet (although they often meet at necklines!) It's all really silly. As a shop owner, I'll say that crochet can be REALLY GOOD for sales, as I'm told it takes 3 times more yarn to make the same garment with crochet than knitting. I wish I had more crocheters in my shop!

JoB@3 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:15 PM

OK, so I guess crocheters have rights too. But what I'd really like then is a conversion of the crochet patterns to KNITTING patterns! So many times I see a free pattern, start drooling over it, only to find the words "chain stitch" in the directions. Boo Hoo! I love our site dedicated to us compulsive knitters who really want KNITTING information, not crocheting info.

AnitaM wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:18 PM

I have to agree with those that want to keep knitting and crochet separate. I've only been knitting for a short time, and it has definitely become my passion. I'm certainly not against crochet - I will probably have a go at it at some time in the future - but I look to Knitting Daily for just that, knitting. It seems to make sense to set up a separate Crochet Daily and then it is available for those who want it - or might be lured in the future. :)

BarbO wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:19 PM

Is it that serious? Please, we have so many other ways that we need to learn to get along in this life. This is beneath us.

DianeD@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:19 PM

I'm not sure why, but I tend to think of knitting as "hip and cool" and crocheting as old fashioned (maybe because my mom crocheted?). But I find myself looking at a pattern and thinking,ooo, I want to knit that, and when I look closer, it's crocheted. There definitely are some beautiful crocheted things. I don't mind content on crocheting in this newsletter.

SaraJ wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:20 PM

I had this feeling when socks were being discussed here, and that feeling would be, I think many people's lack of tolerance for the fact that other people see value in something different, that other people see value in combining knitting and crochet from time to time, that other people see value in occasional mention, or a bit less often, more than mention, of crochet in a "knitting" newsletter, is lamentable. Part of human nature, but so is poor sportsmanship. With that said, I am not saying those voicing opinions of no crochet mentioned here have poor character; I just have a different opinion on the subject and respect their right to theirs. Perhaps mine is too blunt, but since I see others that seem blunt, I may as well voice my own!

Um, this is Interweave's blog, of course it's going to mention IW publications that come out. The "off" days, particularly are ad-like/ads, but the rest of the time is the more personal Sandi. Given the costs involved in an enterprise like this (a full-time, and probably? now TWO full-time salaries, in addition to the folks who have "Daily" work as part of their assortment of duties . . . . I think IW has kept things less commercial-like than they could have gone.

Besides, Sandi is passionate about crochet, and when a new IW crochet pub is out, especially since it's only 4 times a year, I'dve been surprised had she not devoted a post or more to it.

I enjoy knit projects that have some crochet, and as I get more into crochet, vice-versa, and have no problem with publications dedicated to one field, with edgings in the other, and/or one-two projects that combine them a little more extensively. Both knit AND crochet pubs do this, and I think it's great, because neither skill exists in a vacuum, and there ARE people out there who want to use both together, and where else but in knit and in crochet mags would they put this? I don't know that they could do a quarterly combo issue, but maybe a yearly (please? hee hee.)

SaraJ wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:20 PM

I certainly don't expect a newsletter, even one on a particular interest of mine, to always be on an aspect of that interest that I do alot of; heck, if there's enough people doing something that there's a newsletter for it, chances are the range of topics is going to cover things from time to time that don't appeal to all. It would be like expecting every pattern in IW Knit or Crochet to be designed for one size range only, and send the rest of the people off to their own mag, or for every pattern in each issue to be one you are GOING to make, or would even consider making; there are so many tastes, styles, fashions, body types, etc., that any such expectation (for most) would be unrealistic. To expect KD to always be on an aspect of knitting, and subjects related to knitting (which crochet can be), that you like, is IMHO unrealistic. But understandable, to want what one likes to be the focus of posting from such an intelligent and passionate knitter/crocheter such as yourself, Sandi. Thanks!

JillD@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:26 PM

First, I'd like to thank Sandi and all those involved in bringing us Knitting Daily ,which is FREE and provides excellent information about the technicalities of knitting as well as a forum for discussion through which I've learned a lot.

Like some others who've commented, I prefer the look of knitted items to crocheted ones, but do find crochet very useful for edgings on things I've knitted. I reckon those who don't have time or inclination to read about crocheting can take a quick gander at the subject or pattern and move on once they realize it's not something they are interested in. Don't we all do that with patterns that don't appeal anyway? I know I take a look at the instructions and once i realize it's a crochet pattern, I turn the page -- takes a matter of seconds.

If readers want a separate Crochet Daily, who at Interweave would take on the task? If it's Sandi, I would assume that creating and maintaining a Crochet Daily would take away from her time to work on Knitting Daily, no? If I had to choose between less Sandi in order to have the "C" word not mentioned in Knitting Daily or have some crochet discussion and patterns and more Sandi, I'll take the latter. And, who knows, maybe I can be converted to really try my hand at crochet if I happen to come across a discussion about it that peaks my interest and expands my horizons?

This free forum/blog is brought to us by Sandi and others, who have such a passion for what they do, and is like having my own knitting group full of expert knitters/designers right in my own house available to me at any hour of the day! I'm more than willing to hear the "C" word in order to keep Knitting Daily coming to my house!

SallyW@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:27 PM

I've only been knitting for about five years, and haven't realized there was a "feud" between knitters and crocheters. However, I must echo those who are simply not interested in crochet, and would prefer not to read articles about totally crocheted items. Start another blog called "Crochet Daily" as has been suggested.

JessicaK wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:28 PM

I learned how to crochet well before I learned how to knit, and I absolutely love doing both! My first baby blankets were all crocheted, and I loved the speed with which they materialized. I even made my daughter a few crocheted sweaters before I was finally convinced to pick up knitting. I've been knitting pretty solidly for a year now, but every once in awhile it just feels nice to pick up that crochet hook. Crocheting is still my preferred method for big projects like blankets, and while I love the look of simple stockinette sweaters, I think they look even more fabulous with neat crocheted edgings. So I'm all for everybody just getting along. It seems such a shame not to.

KaraW wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:29 PM

I knit AND crochet. I understand the advantages and disadvantages to both and use techniques in both to achieve my objectives. I subscribe to KnittingDaily for knitting content.

PamG wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:31 PM

Thanks for daring to mention crochet, even though this is the Knitting Daily newsletter. I knit and crochet but prefer crochet. Life is too short for knitters and crocheters to be dissing each other.

CynthiaK@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:31 PM

Hey Sandi! A lovely message of peace - thank you. For my part, I think what really bugs me is the assumption that I SHOULD crochet, or have a damn good reason not to, if I enjoy knitting. Crochet is lovely but personally I just don't get any pleasure from it. Great joy to all of those who like both! :) CK

LaurelZ wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:31 PM

I have noticed that many knitters treat crochet as a strange, exotic activity that could potentially cause harm if incorrectly done. This is a shame, because crochet can be faster, easier and just plain better for certain uses. I believe in being both an expert knitter and crocheter. It greatly expands your horizons, allowing you to take on virtually any project you want. No more "Gee, I wish that great sweater pattern was written for knitters!" Plus, some knitting patterns incorporate a little crochet for edgings. It's really nice to have all the patterns in the world at your fingertips!

MaxineH wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:32 PM

I am delighted that you mentioned crochet. Not that I don't like knitting, I just can't do it. I am a 69 yr old grandmother who is left handled and just can't seem to get the knitting right. No pun intended. I have subscribed to Interweave Crochet and received my first issue this week. I am looking forward to more crochet talk on this website. Thank you so much.

Korinthe wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:34 PM

I think Sarah C really pinned the tension well.

Personally, I think the best posts on KD (so far) have been the ones about fitting and understanding patterns. That's not strictly knitting. And the world of knitting borders on many other activities and skills (spinning, dyeing, felting, sewing, as well as crochet) that knitters enjoy. Not all knitters enjoy all of these things -- but that's human nature. If we/KD all stuck to just knitting, all the time, with no side ventures into activities bordering knitting, that would be rather limiting. Knitting-as-informed-by-other-skills, and vice versa, is so much richer than Just Knitting.

Sandi, I'm glad you have multiple passions and grateful that you share them with us!

LynnC wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:34 PM

Sometimes I add crochet to a knitted item. Lynn

MarneR wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:39 PM

Puleeze! It is most definitely not a contest of which is better. I have seen chrocheted items I would consider passable, but face it, the similarity between the two modes of creating fabric from strings using sticks is night and day. Any resemblance is purely coincidental. I don't want chrochet shoved down my throat from a knitting blog. I will opt out if it looks like any measurable chunk of your effort is heading in that direction. And please keep chrochet patterns out of Interweave Knits. I buy the magazine for KNITTING patterns and consider it a bait and switch when precious space is taken up with unrelated stuff. Chrocheters have plenty of resources and now your new publication which I am sure is very nice.

RuthR wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:43 PM

I learned to crochet and knit at a very early age, and have enjoyed both all of my life. I like the fact that I am "bi-lingual" and know how and when to use hook or needles. As with fruits and veggies, we need both for variety and nutrition. One type is used for one thing, another type is used for something else. It's exciting to walk into a yarn shop and know that I can make ANYTHING!!

snugglypooh89 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:43 PM

Hooray for you for mentioning knitting and crochet in the same sentence. I am a closet knitter and crocheter and I always have to look over my shoulder right before I switch from a size h hook to size 10 needles. (Is anybody there??) I think the two are intricately woven together as crafts cherished by anyone that just loves the feel of yarn in their hands.

patrysia_520 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 4:57 PM

Just yesterday several of us crocheters on a large crochet forum, which has knitting special interest groups for those who enjoy both, were discussing how much we loved Knitting Daily, how it has helped us with our knitting, shaping and fitting, how we'd love to have Sandi over for a pot of tea and some stitching, etc. Too funny then that today's column mentions the C word, and how amazing it is to me that so many K afficionados find the C word so offensive. Naturally some things look much better in knit than in crochet, but that holds for vice versa too. Crochet patterns have come a long way from the cliched ugly tissue box covers, and let's be fair, there are ugly knit patterns out there, too. I suspect there are a lot of us 'bi' people out there who enjoy both arts and can proudly wield both the needles and the hook. And who subscribe to both IK and IC. I seriously doubt readers will be bombarded with weekly columns on crocheting, but if Sandi wants to include a fabulous pattern or technique utilizing both, I'd love it.

Lorenegk wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:00 PM

I thought this was KNITTING Daily, I don't crochet and am not really interested in crocheting

EVJ wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:02 PM

I subscribed to KNITTING DAILY, not Needle Arts Daily.

RobinF@3 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:02 PM

On crochet - if you haven't watched Wooly Bullies on YouTube - you REALLY need to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZcUjYpjKZs

MinnieP wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:04 PM

I took like to crochet & knit. I think they both are beautiful in their own right and compliment the project when used together for effect. knitminnie

MinnieP wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:04 PM

I took like to crochet & knit. I think they both are beautiful in their own right and compliment the project when used together for effect. knitminnie

MinnieP wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:04 PM

I took like to crochet & knit. I think they both are beautiful in their own right and compliment the project when used together for effect. knitminnie

pennyalb wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:04 PM

I have to agree with many of the other comments -- I will only subscribe to newsletters or buy books/ magazine devoted strictly to knitting. I also agree that I get irritated when bookstores intermingle knitting and crocheting books. I have gone so far as to move crocheting books out of the knitting section and into their own section at bookstores because it bugs me so much. Please enjoy your crocheting but please keep it out of my knitting world. Thank you for letting me vent.

MarilynB@3 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:06 PM

I think when I am a knitter only it is so frustrating to see a pattern on a knitting site, get excited for a second before you realize it is a crochet pattern and you have no chance of making it. While I am not anti crochet, I have now tried 3 times and have failed three times for it to take. Knitting took one long try and I got it.
There is so much knitting and crocheting info out there, it just makes twice the info and the heart beat a few too many frustrating times to have both together for those of us who are single craft-ees. Your site has been good about saying that it is a crochet moment, so I have just been deleting them before the temptation occurs, so as long as you say, this is a crochet based email vs a knitting email I can compromise. But now I have gone 2 days without any kntting new and just crochet based news. The heart grows lonely for some knitting news....

Adr1enne wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:12 PM

I love to crochet. I also spin and use handspun yarn for crochet. I've tried knitting, but I learned to crochet first and I'm sticking with it. Please continue to mention crochet. I look forward to reading Knitting Daily because a lot of the topics apply to both techniques. I subscribed to Interweave Crochet months before the first subscription issue even came out. Keep up the good work and keep crochet as an important, vital topic.

tine wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:19 PM

WOW. I am a knitter. I chose knitting to rebel against all the crocheters in my family. I only know of one knitter in my family. Now that grandma has moved away and my dear mother in law has passed away I really want to learn to crochet. I just recently found out that my mother's sister crochets. She lives in Okinawa, Japan so learning from her will be a tad difficult. Because of the IC ad from a few weeks ago, I now subscribe to IC. I don't even crochet, but I really want to try! Why? Because knitting, crochet, needlepoint etc. are things that I want to pass down to my children without bias. I will subscribe to twenty separate newsletters if that is what it takes to be in a community that I love. Thank you Sandi and Interweave for all that you do.
PS - For those who didn't know Kim Werker now has a blog up for IC. In her blog she writes about varigated yarn. I think anyone who loves yarn no matter how they work it would appreciate her post. Oops, is it okay to mention the other blog?

CandaceS wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:20 PM

I learned to do a simple chain when I was 6 or so from mom and grandma. Nothing fancy, just yards and yards of chain. When I was older, I watched my girlscout friend knit a red mohair sweater and was green with envy. Her mother said only knitters could make nice garments. Later I learned to knit also and have loved both ever since. Crochet makes better blankets and flat items than knitting. My crochet afgans are with many friends who stay warm and comforted by their extra weight and color. Knitting, for me, is the smaller, fancy work part of yarn weaving art. Love both though !!!!Candace Michigan Crafter

JoanS wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:22 PM

Wish I had the time to learn to crochet, but I'm too busy knitting! I know just enough to finish edges nicely. Cables? Love them!!!

firecatstef wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:27 PM

I both knit and crochet. I started with crochet, but also learned knitting because I heard it "used less yarn" and because at that point in time, knitting was more popular and there were more knit patterns available. I'm happy that there are starting to be more (and a wider variety of) crochet patterns available now!

I have to say, I keep hearing about this "feud" but I've never heard any individual yarn crafter spend much energy on "dissing" the other yarn craft. I've heard people talk about why they prefer one or the other, but that's not feuding.

I think that the terms "knit" and "crochet" denote different crafts and it would be misleading to try to subsume crochet patterns and discussion under the term "Knitting." In these comments I see some people saying they would be annoyed at seeing a lot of crochet stuff in "Knitting Daily." But I'm thinking that crocheters might believe "Knitting Daily" is only for people who knit, and they might miss out on something they would find useful, if the newsletter continued to be called "Knitting Daily."

CandaceS wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:27 PM

Oh, I just read all the posts and am reeling at the anti-crochet scentiment. I always thought a well-rounded fiber worker could do all; knit, crochet, a bit of embroidery, some basic sewing - all are pertinent to the finish of a yarn project. I am proud to do all. I would subscribe to Knitting Daily with crochet items as well as knitting advise. When the topic isn't interesting, I hit the delete button. No problem... Sandy this is a WONDERFUL newsletter, just wonderfull and I wait for each missive. Candace Midwest Jack of all trades.

Libraryhag wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:28 PM

If you keep this up I am going to have to start crocheting. First that cute cute scarf and now this dress. You are an evil, evil woman. Jan

DeborahF@3 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:29 PM

I just knitted up a wool bag to felt. I finished the top edge in single crochet. It makes the nicest crisp edge! My grandmother taught me to crochet long before I learned to knit, so I have an affinity for both.
Though I have run into the animosity you describe.
:-)
But after futzing around the other day trying to understand and execute a picot bind off in knitting, I thought to myself, why all this fuss? I'm going to crochet one!
Me, I'm happy I have BOTH skills at my disposal.

ChristiD wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:30 PM

How appropriate that this is my first issue of KD!! I've been a crochetier for a long time, and just learned to knit this past summer! I'm interested in both, and certainly don't mind seeing both in the same blog/newsletter. I've been upset to see the same 'bait and switch' others have spoken about when I was only looking for crochet items.

I can also understand the desires of 'only knit' or 'only crochet'. As long as one group doesn't look down their noses at the other because they think what they do is better.....

KristineA wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:30 PM

All the women in my family did both, as well as sew, needlepoint, etc. etc. And that's what I learned. I never realized there was such heated debate. Why limit yourself?

VickiM@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:35 PM

For those who believe that these two beautiful crafts cannot ever co-exist take a look at Pink Frosting featured on pg 48 of Spring 2006 issue of Interweave Crochet ( which you can get to by following the link to interweave crochet from our beloved Knitting Daily). This is a perfect example of both Crochet and Knitting working beautifully together. As a novice at both Knitting and Crochet( I have to watch myself and talk myself through doing every knit stitch, poke the needle through , wrap the yarn, bring it back through, slide it off, YAY! I did one!) I will admit freely that I am always asking for help with learning both. My mum for knitting, which rekindled a closeness from childhood, and for crochet, just started learning 3 weeks ago, my sister in law! I can only hope that with a lot of practice that one day I will be talented enough to complete something as beautiful as the top featured. Until that day comes I will continue to be inspired in both crafts by all of the beautiful patterns both Knitting and Crochet featured on Knitting Daily!

KateW wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:36 PM

Okay, I don't get why there has to be this hand-wringing. This is called "knitting daily". I don't care about these supposed handcraft feuds, but if it's a mailing list about knitting it should be about knitting! I don't get it if crocheters pout when a knitting magazine talks about what it says it will do on the tin.

People don't hate crochet if they don't do it. People who don't do it will not be interested when it's provided, and rightly feel mystified that it's all up in their knitting space.

elizaduckie wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:43 PM

I hope you will make sure the subject line says "crochet" if that's what you are going to address. I don't hate crocheting. I used to be an avid crocheter. I'm just NOT interested in it anymore. Also I don't have time to read the "KNITTING Daily" only to find out it's all about "Crochet". Please continue to make it clear which medium/mediums you are adressing so I can use the delete button appropriately. --WendyE

AliciaVS wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:48 PM

I learned to crochet first, then learned how to knit. I love them both. I belong to an SnB group in Los Angeles, where there is support for all needle crafts. We have a blast and help each other out. I was shocked the first time I encountered the "snobbery" against crochet. It reminded me of other inter-community feuds. Has anyone heard of the "poetry vs. spoken word feud", the "gay vs. bi feud", or the "painters vs. photographers feud"? These feuds nasty and harmful to the their community. I agree with Sandi, lets just let this feud go. Ultimately, it just puts a bad taste in people's mouths. So what if a non-crafter confuses knit and crochet items- just gently correct them, without judgement. Be happy that they noticed your sweater/scarf/hat/whatever you made. Or be brave and don't correct them. Just be happy you made a beautiful item with your hands and someone noticed it.

What I love about this blog is Sandi's enthusiasm, curiosity and expertise. She is crazy about crochet too. I want to hear what she has to say about it.

CarolB wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:50 PM

I learned to crochet as a child, and only picked up knitting in the last few years. I believe that both crafts have value, and there can be crossover (such as a crocheted edging for a knitted garment). But I believe that they are more like cousins than sisters, and I have to agree with other posters that this is Knitting Daily, where life meets knitting (or so it says up top). I think there is a place for articles on how to incorporate some crochet into knitting projects, but if you want to add more focus on crochet and crochet projects, you need to change the name to more accurately reflect the content, or create another companion newsletter.

And actually, there is a similar schism between needlepoint and cross-stitch - the needlepointers think they are more creative because they decide what fibers and stitches to use on their painted canvases, rather than blindly following a chart, while the cross-stitchers think that the needlepointers are all snobs, and don't get that cross-stitchers change colors, fabric and fibers (and sometimes the patterns themselves) all the time.

LynneW@3 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:50 PM

Sandi, I started out as a handweaver and handspinner. I've recently taken up knitting to offset all the time I spend on the computer. The knit or crochet affiliation seems just like the Mac or PC one. However our creativity can be expressed, whatever form best suits how our brains process information, wherever there is community and connectedness is where our souls will be fed. The form in which these experiences are held...well, it is all transformed stash isn't it?

Jennifer@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 5:50 PM

I learned to crochet before I learned to knit, and I think it's good to know both. Still, I prefer knitting myself, and rarely pick up a crochet hook.

While I like the idea of Knitting Daily including both knitting and crochet, I think keeping the name would be misleading, especially if crochet is mentioned frequently. So you could change the name (Yarn Daily?), or start Crochet Daily. Whatever you decide, I'll keep reading!

LanetteH wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 6:29 PM

Wow! As if you need another opinion! I have this beautiful black, stockinette scarf, with multi-colored, round crocheted granny circles as decals on the scarf. I ALWAYS get compliments on it when I wear it out. People swear it's hand-made (though it isn't) and because of all the attention it gets, I plan to copy it and do my own handmade version. I think when crochet and knitting marry, it can be a beautiful thing. That said, I do get a little peeved when I buy a knitting magazine and I see that they've thrown in some crochet. I learned to crochet first, I crocheted for many, many years but always wanted to learn to knit. I LOVE to knit. What I LOVE about crochet is that most times when I see it, it is handmade. You can buy a knitting machine, but I've yet to see a crochet machine. I think that makes it special. I would not mind if knitting daily included crochet.

PatriciaC wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 6:38 PM

I don't get it either. My mom knit and crochet. She taught me both, but the knitting didn't take.I crocheted for a bit in high school before getting interested in other things. I knit now and have forgotten the crochet. I plan on learning again. Cross training.
I think crochet got a bad reputation b/c of granny squares and doilies, but there's some goofy knitted stuff too.

I wouldn't mind the occasional crochet item/article/pattern on Knitting Daily, but it should stick to knitting. I'd also sign up for a Crochet Daily.

JeannieC wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 6:52 PM

I personally agree, knit & crochet are wonderful crafts. I learned knitting 1st and had a harder time of crochet only because of being left-handed. I have several made several garments & afghans that are knit & trimmed in crochet. So I think the go together like p.b. & j

GerriB wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 6:55 PM

Before I opened my knit shop in Olde Town Arvada, I did a bit of research on both fiber arts and found some facsinating details that may help to explain that split between the "Jets" and the Sharks." I'll try to keep it short:

Back in the guilded age of Victorian times, lace was highly fashionable (everything from collars and cuffs to bed and table linens). Most laces were handmade at the time and the "best" laces came from Europe. Obviously only the wealthy could afford them.

In come the ladies of the evening, who by nature of their profession, made extensive use of lace (lingerie, etc). Because most of these women were prudent (at least in terms of how they spent their hard earned money--sorry for that pun), they started to create their own laces--with a hook and some thread--thus the term "hookers," which we sometimes use to label those who partake in the world's oldest profession.

After reading some of the borderline anger-laced postings, I think that the negative connotation of "hooked" fiber arts still permeates our modern thinking. Regardless of our preferences, I'd like to think that we are able to open our thinking to include crochet as an equal artform to knitting! Those snooty Victorians excluded a great deal of folks who have added so much to our history of time, place, language and culture. I, for one, am over it! Call me a "hooker" and I will wave my tool high and proud!

Gerri Bragdon
Knit Knack

AmieH wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 6:57 PM

If crochet was to be considered a topic along with knitting, then why go out of your way to name the publication, "KNITTING DAILY?" Did anyone spend any time considering how off-putting that would be to crocheters? spinners? other fiber artisans? (I propose it wouldn't have been had it never been mentioned that other topics besides knitting would be mentioned). The fact that the content on this publication has been 95% knitting, with two mentions of crochet, and a tad about other topics, suggests that it's not *really* about crochet and never will be.

There are many of us who have been on the edge of our seats waiting to even see the word "crochet" (dare it be mentioned). I just wish it wasn't this far into a publication that devotes itself to continuing the great divide with a poor name choice like, "KNITTING DAILY."

Amie Hirtes
Founder/Designer
NexStitch
www.nexstitch.com

L47chidester1 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 7:04 PM

I totally agree. I have quit groups because I got tired of the snide remarks made towards the knitter or crocheter. I do both and I always have. There are things I like better when crocheted and others I like when knitted. These are both skills that everyone should be proud of. Thank you for bringing this subject up.

Wendy wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 7:12 PM

A question for IC: I've wanted to make the Lily Chin crocheted dress since it was first published a few years ago, but the yarn it calls for, Lang Golf, has (and had already back then) been long discontinued. I haven't even been able to find reliable information about its attributes. Yarndex.com calls it a "worsted" weight plied mercerized cotton, but pegs its knitting gauge at 25 st/4 in on a US 4-6 needle, which is more like sport weight. Could you please suggest suitable substitute yarns? Thanks!

Like some of the others who have commented here, I'm definitely "bi" and don't understand why anyone would bother to create a conflict. I enjoy both knitting and crochet and, more to the point, the possibility of using either enhances the other whether each is used alone or together in a particular project. C'mon, don't we have better things to worry about? As for having some crochet included in or with knitting patterns, I say: If you don't want to learn crochet, intarsia, entrelac, lace (either knit or crocheted), embroidery (also known to co-exist with knitting in the same pattern), or any other particular knitting- or fiber-related technique, then don't. Life's too short to engage in "leisure" activities that don't interest you. But why expend energy by getting angry at folks who might want to try something different or publishers who dare to introduce a variety of related and/or interconnected techniques? I just don't get it.

Long live ALL fiber arts!

Mammadonna wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 7:20 PM

I knit, crochet, embroider, cross stitch; I love the fiber arts. But I subscribe to Knitting Daily to read/learn about knitting.... Maybe a Crochet Daily newsletter is in order.
Knitting is my passion, I always identify myself as a knitter. I taught myself to knit and crochet 35 yrs ago. I subscribe to Interweave Knits, Interweave Crochet, and Knitscene (my favorite. I look forward to Knitting Daily in my inbox. Keep the knitting news coming........

JenniferH@5 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 7:33 PM

Thank you for mentioning crochet! I crochet and knit, although I am primarily a crocheter. I subscribed to Knitting Daily because it was about fiber and it was from Interweave and it was by Sandi Wiseheart, whose column I have enjoyed reading in Interweave Crochet magazine. I would happily subscribe to a Crochet Daily, but I am also happy to read about crochet in this newsletter.

It's easy enough to skip over any content--in an e-newsletter or a magazine or a book--that doesn't interest me. I am not interested in knitting socks or sweaters, but I do enjoy looking at work that others have done. Even if I never plan to make an item, I can learn from seeing it--a new colorway, for example.

If the newsletter is going to continue to primarily be about knitting, with perhaps an occasional mention of crochet (or weaving? spinning?) then continue to call it Knitting Daily. A publication called Fiber Daily (just what the doctor ordered!) that ended up being mostly about knitting would be annoying. But if the focus is going to broaden to include other fiberarts, then a name change may be necessary. Either way, I will continue to subscribe.

VashtiB wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 7:38 PM

I had high hopes for Knitting Daily because the original announcement promised crochet too. Obviously from the comments many KD readers never saw the original announcement and assume that it's 100% for knitters. I can't blame them for thinking that, given the name.
KD has a big knitting momentum going now, and sprinkling in some crochet just marginalizes it, as if it's some intruder to a party. Crochet was on the original guest list! And crocheters showed up, and were ignored.
Now crocheters get to read about how knitters feel about crochet. The hostility has me reeling. I can't think of the last time I read a bunch of crocheters dissing knitting.
A "Crochet Daily" would be divine if it included in-depth discussions of skill and technique like KD.

KathyF wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 7:48 PM

My reason's for preferring knitting to crocheting are my personal bias.I taught myself to knit but can't seem to understand where to put the hook after the first row of crocheting.I always end up with a triangle rather than a square. I think there are beautiful crochet patterns being published but I also feel crocheting is limited.I can get a lacy look with knitting but can't get a plain fabric with crocheting.Having said all that, I am willing to read and talk about any fiber art. Its all good and I enjoy reading to merely know about a subject.But let me make one more plug for knitting. It uses about one third less yarn than crocheting.That is a great savings given the cost of good yarn.(Let's face it I boils down to I'm too dense to figure out crocheting. I would probably be cranking it out if Icould master it.)

Lydia wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 7:48 PM

Once upon a time, I was the biggest crochet snob. I had many a heated discussion with my mother (who has only dabbled in knitting, and not for many years) about how superior knitting was to crochet.

Then I crocheted my first granny square. I was hooked! (pun intended) I love the freedom of being able to rip back whenever you want, nothing to pick up, no need to tink backwards slowly, just one long riiiiiiip. If I could only choose one, I'd still pick knitting, but there are now hooks and crochet magazines in my stash, and I have a special place in my heart for crochet.

ClaireA wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 8:02 PM

Why don't you call it Interweave Daily? That way all bases are covered.

I can't help but remember how I felt as a crocheter that the majority of the yarn related publications out there were devoted to knitting. The crocheters were thrown a pattern or two here or there. Now the crochet tide is turning and it's about time. To those who don't want to read about crochet, turn the page, click to another website or wait a day. There'll be more knitting content, I'm sure. Better yet, why don't you give crochet a closer look or another try and maybe you'll find that crochet is more interesting than you thought it was. I did that with knitting and now I do both and love them both.

Bring on the crochet!

BonnieP@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 8:21 PM

I was so pleased to read that you will now be having some crochet in your newsletters. I'm just a beginner at knitting but I have crocheted for about 30 years.It's nice to know I will be able to learn more about knitting and still find some new things for my crocheting. Thank You.

Sallybibb wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 8:46 PM

I love crochet and would love to hear more about it. I have knit for many years, but just started crocheting in the last year or so (because I couldn't crochet an edging around something in a knitting workshop - that motivated me!). My crochet teacher ended up being a distant cousin that I never would have found without crocheting. Plus, we made the greatest little tote bag that I use all the time (Berroco's "Annie Bag" - free pattern).

NoraP wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 8:53 PM

I expect a publication called Knitting Daily to be about knitting. If I were interested in crocheting, which I am not, I would search for a publication about that subject.

LeslieB@4 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 8:57 PM

I use the hook end of a plastic crochet hook when picking up and then holding cable stitches and just knit those stitches right off the straight end of the needle. The stitches stay put and the hook end points down helping to keep the stitches on the needle.

KathyF@3 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 9:10 PM

Back when I was "only" a crocheter, I guess I was occasionally annoyed to have my google searches turn up knitting patterns and the like.

But you know what? After a few years of that, I started to think maybe knitting wasn't such a weird, uninteresting waste of my time. I learned how to do it. And now I love both. I actually think that my enthusiasms for knitting and crochet feed off of and improve each other. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts, yes?

If you don't like crochet (or knitting), that's okay. You don't have to love it as much as I do. But please be respectful.

PaulineL wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 9:13 PM

Over one hundred comments already!!! I've only read a few, and I'm astounded at how many knitters don't want crochet added. I do both, they can both be beautiful, and I'd like to see both included in Knitting (and Crochet) Daily.

SaraJ wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 9:16 PM

I'm thinking this sort of thing is why the excellent, technical, in-depth knitting articles in Threads Magazine, were cut back when they were. And it's been our loss, ever since.

I also say Ditto to Vashti's points; exactly what I was thinking, although I do believe, as someone else mentioned, that starting up a Crochet Daily at this point would lessen time, attention, and resources from Knitting Daily.

Now, I think a Crochet Daily would be excellent, but only when it's had the proper lead-up time in-house to get the resources and personnel in place. Anything less would only be harmful to KD and this hypothesized CD. Even after were there ever also a CD, I still do not think it awry for crochet to have mention within KD from time to time.

CarolF@3 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 9:21 PM

I loved your article today about crochet vs knitting. I love to do both, but sadly my carpul tunnel has limited my ability to knit so I now devote most of my yarn love to crochet. I am constantly searching for new crochet patterns and wistfully peruse all the lovely new knit patterns. My mother taught me to knit as a little girl and I taught myself to crochet as an adult. I love your site and look forward to reading it everyday. Please keep adding lovely crochet articles as well as the fantastic knitting articles. Carol in Tyler, TX

LauraW@2 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 9:25 PM

Embroiderers and cross-stitchers certainly should be hissing at each other. I find it hard to believe that they aren't already.

More seriously, my main problem with crochet is that I don't yet know how to do it. When I buy a knitting magazine, crochet patterns are not what I'm paying for. If someone through in a weaving pattern, I wouldn't want that either.

DeborahC wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 9:27 PM

Hey - I absolutely agree! Knit, Crochet, Tat - you name it! Fun with yarn is all that matters!! With crochet you can make "stucturally curved" items that are impossible with knitting. Ah...but knitting is often finer, and more form configuring. Plus - the same yarn, the same item - Crochet always requires more yarn. It is, as I am fond of saying, "the nature of the stitch". The point is: whatever it is you are looking to make - choose the technique that works, and makes your fingers AND your heart sing!! Deborah Castelli

Mary wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 9:55 PM

I'm a knitter and I prefer the visual texture of knits to crochet... though I do love delicate crocheted lace edgings (like your Mermaid scarf). I too would like Knitting Daily to remain "Knitting" Daily please (you know, with "Knitting + Crochet Daily" thrown in sometimes!)... but it would be great if you tackled the subject of "Knitting vs. Crochet: how are they different?" Sandi!

OmaW wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 10:00 PM

I have been knitting and crocheting for over 55 years. Each has its special place; I'd never knit a doily or full-sized afghan, yet socks and sweaters are so much better when knitted.

Keep up the good work in both crafts; combining both of these skills in one garment/article is always stunning.

Keep up the good work.

Oma

KayW wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 10:12 PM

Yes I crochet - and also hang with some very cool crochet types. I have many saved files and ideas for knitting with lots of individual files for technique, desige, patterns and I just slipped the crochet in beside them. Since you decided to devote some time on Knitting Daily to Crochet - I put a separate new Folder on my drive so it could have space!
I like to crochet and there are some designs that lend themselves to be crocheted. I just like the way knits feel better and lots of times will start out crocheting and switch it to knitting. I do knit lace but my favorite Lace sweaters are crocheted!

HollyE wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 10:18 PM

I knit and crochet and love both. I find them both complimentary to and vastly different from each other - doing both keeps me interested and gives me so many creative options.

Frankly, I find all the feud business petty and dated - it rings of class issues from the 19th century. Both crafts require skills and talent. In my opinion, neither is more elegant than the other - you can make horrible items by either knitting or crochet, just as you can make fabulous items using either skill. People like different things.

I would love to see more crochet subjects in Knitting Daily, since I'm interested in both. I find there are lots and lots of knitting resources available but not as many for crochet. If there were a Crochet Daily, I'd subscribe to it in a heartbeat.

MaryseR wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 10:27 PM

i knit and crochet and don't understand all of the animosity. i do admit to getting more than my share of ribbing from knitters when i used to talk about crochet in my blog. but all it took was a couple of popular bloggers making a ripple blanket and the teasing has stopped.

i haven't gotten into any arguments about one versus the other though. i wonder if those who get all hot and bothered are those who are just jealous that they can't do the other craft ;-). what do you think?

Jtle2003 wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 10:52 PM

I love that Interweave Crochet is now a subscription, but I was disappointed that it came stapled and not like it did before. It is just as good as Interweave Knits, so it should be bound like Interweave Knits. I hope Interweave Press considers binding Interweave Crochet like Knits. To me, it makes it a notch higher in quality will be more collectible.

YvetteR wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 11:38 PM

Sandi, i know it is probably too much to hope for since crochet has now been put back in the corner by the Knitting Daily readers at large.... but i would LOVE to see the Lily Chin lace dress modeled like the sweaters on all the Interweave gals (and Bertha!!). i'll keep hoping.

EvelynA wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 11:42 PM

Um, well, with all due respect, then crochet = knitting = tatting = quilting = needlepoint = weaving = cross-stitch = just about every fiddly thing you can do with your hands and fiber...I'm sorry...I appreciate that most of us may be cross-trainers in the fiber arts (I have done and am fascinated by all of the above), but personally, I really need one thing, ONE thing, in my life to be direct and clear. Please, don't mix media other than through optional links to "Crochet Daily." If I feel like I'm becoming a test pilot for other media, my Knitting Daily treat becomes something to delete.

AmieH wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 11:49 PM

Vashti, crocheters don't sit around and diss knitters - you're right. We generally have an appreciation for our sister arts (weaving, spinning, etc included) and won't be found trying to find faults with them. It'll be nice when the rest of group catches up to the notion that all needle arts forms are to be held at the highest esteem.

VivianM wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 11:56 PM

in regards to cables, i use the HOOK. i think they still make it. your sticthes can hang all day and not go astray

Charmaine wrote

on Sep 19, 2007 11:58 PM

I was just looking at your crochet patterns yesterday! I have always wanted to try crochet but have never managed to get beyond a simple single crocheted edge on my knitting. Maybe a little crochet flavor added to Knitting Daily is what I need to get me motivated. I'm looking forward to reading about crochet as well as knitting.

bsteph wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 12:52 AM

I'd like to learn how to crochet. Do you have suggestions on how-to books or better ways to learn?

I say OK to KD to be hybrid and when the knitting or crochet topics offend readers, they may press delete that day!

StacyR wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 1:29 AM

Please, please, please, help me understand the bias against crochet! It seem to me from reading some of the previous comments that the folks who only knit have a major aversion to crochet, and those folks who only crochet are willing to learn to knit. I am one who does both, and I LOVE both.

However, I am beginning to wonder if the "only knitting" folks somehow feel threatened by the crochet world. Yes, in some ways crochet is easier, but no easier than working a simple garter stitch pattern because it is satisfying after a long day of "working for the man." Crochet is sometimes better for the instant gratification side of us, but that is no reason to denigrate the craft.

I must admit that I am really getting tired of this debate! In my opinion, both knit and crochet qualify as "playing with yarn." I enjoy the play, whatever form it takes. We all have enough stress in our lives with jobs, kids, households, etc. to maintain. I CANNOT ACCEPT those who are determined to transform a leisure/stress relief activity into a competition.

Is is a "status" thing? Does crochet have a "redneck" stereotype? If so, please look at some of the newest designs on the runway. In addition, I have read many articles in which crochet folks buy more yarn, make more stuff, and then donate/give away more of that stuff to charity than knitters do. If that is "redneck" then I will own it.

For the Knitting Daily folks, please continue to give the "C" peeps something to hang onto until the rest of the world catches up! Sandi, I an thrilled that you are passionate about both crafts, and are willing to treat both crafts as equal.

kerjo wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 3:29 AM

I don't understand the divide either: when I first learned both as a child, if anything crochet was admired as more difficult and skilful (Irish lace crochet took a lot of time and patience). I love both crafts and frequently combine them in freeform work. I do marginally more knitting than crochet these days, but get exasperated at the lack of good crochet patterns. A lack which you at Interweave are addressing marvellously. Keep up the good work!

BrentA wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 3:54 AM

Sandi,

I think you're right. Coincidentally, the first handcraft I learned was crochet, which I did exclusively for years believing that it was freer and creatively more flexible than knitting (because then you're not stuck with all those open stitches all the time...) Then I learned to knit so that I could make knitted socks, and since then I simply keep discovering more and more of the creative possibilities that knitting has to offer. Although I now knit more than I crochet, I do appreciate both and I've stopped thinking about which one is "better" - you just have to look at the needs of the project at hand and decide on the look you want, right? It's a choice, not a standard.

AngelaB@3 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 4:25 AM

I have been watching this post with interest. I do both and have done both for years. I have never understood the distaste for one medium over the other. If you like to do both, then do both. If you like one over the other then do which ever medium floats your boat. I see no reason to put down either. As long as your fiber art of choice brings you the desired effect, go for it. Life is too short to war over needle arts!

Diane@2 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 6:13 AM

I think that you would best benefit by going back to the Mason-Dixon blog over and over until you develop an interesting style of writing these e-mails. That would have the effect of creating increased interest in your magazines, over and above the current interest that you enjoy.
I really don't see much of a Knit vs. Crochet controversy these days (I am proficient at both). "Daring to Mention Crochet" is a lame title in my never-to-be- humble opinion. As for your crochet magazine, I'll buy it if/when it has enough to interest me, and I'll leave it alone when it doesn't, just like every other craft magazine on the bookstore shelf.--d. hanges

BethM wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 6:57 AM

I do both, too. I've done more knitting because the knitting patterns I've seen tend to appeal to me more from a fashion stand-point.

Please, I beg you, do NOT go to other blogs for writing or style pointers! I don't need more "hip" or "cool" force fed to me...

Jlyn13 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 7:09 AM

I completely agree! I knit more than I crochet, but I still think that crochet is a beautiful craft. It all comes down to yarn, right? In my opinion, anything that involves yummy yarn turning into beautiful fabric is A-okay!

Gauss wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 7:19 AM

I am very pleasantly surprised by the new issue of Interweave Crochet. I think the issues are getting better and better - great job everyone!

I don't crochet much these days, but I can appreciate beautiful patterns.

JaneA wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 7:31 AM

"...But I think there's room for everyone here on Knitting Daily?what do you think?"
I have nothing against crochet or crocheters (I can knit and crochet), but I subscribe to KNITTING Daily because I want to read about KNITTING. If I want to read about crochet, I'd look for a crochet blog. If there's enough interest, start Crochet Daily, link one blog to the other, encourage people to subscribe to both if they want, mention each other regularly, but don't send me a Knitting Daily that doesn't have anything about knitting in it!

WoolyB wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 7:41 AM

I agree with those who say that the name is Knitting Daily, not Crochet Daily. I, too, want to read about Knitting, not Crochet. If you continue to include it, I'll cancel. Thanks,

SaraV wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 7:49 AM

Stacy and others...

As far as the desire to see *knitting* patterns goes - I remember when my mom first taught me to knit as a kid in the 70s, if you went to the average craft store (no LYS in small-town middle America) you'd find nothing but rack upon rack upon rack of crochet patterns. Knitting patterns were hard to come by, limited in scope and size, and generally pushed to one side.

Which, to me, meant that when the "knitting revolution" hit and patterns were widely available, I get defensive of knitting's "Space" so to speak.

My college roommate taught to to crochet. I haven't retained enough of it to do more than a single crochet edge on something, and I honestly find that I strongly prefer the 2-handed rhythm of knitting. I'm willing to just skip patterns I"m not interested in, but I also know that if I don't read a site more than a few days in a row I start to forget about it and wind up not coming back very often...

SusanL wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 7:51 AM

My sweet grandma taught me to crochet when I was pregnant with my daughter. She knew that all little babies deserved to come into the world welcomed by an afgan lovingly crafted by their mommy's hand. In my daughter's first year I discovered a yarn shop in a little town we had just moved to. There I became intrigued with knitting. I found a little book my grandma had given me with basic instructions on how to crochet, knit, and yes, tatt. I taught myself to knit and in the following 24 years I have picked up so many wonderful tips from friends, books and magazines. I love them both - crocheting and knitting.

Mrknits wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 7:57 AM

You asked what we think about Knitting Daily and just to answer: I love it! Thanks for doing this. Love the patterns, love the books, magazine, etc. It almost makes me want to learn to crochet too. who knows?

thanks, Miriam

MaryP@4 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:05 AM

I'm a lover of crafts, either I do them myself or simply admire the creations of others. Dare I say it, I even mix crochet and knitting in one garment. In fact, I recently made a sweater that included beading, crocheting and knitting. I'm so pleased to see crochet patterns for sweaters and dresses and urge you to dig up more. Thank you again.

LindaH@5 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:06 AM

Thank you for opening the discussion of crochet vs knit. I do both, and am currently in love with the "crochet" method of casting on for knitting. I like the look of it, and besides I don't have to guess at how much yarn I will need to do a "twwo-tailed" cast on.

Halo945 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:15 AM

Sandi,
Please, please don't change my Knitting Daily!!! I don't crochet nor do I plan to in the Future. I love knitting. I love the Knit and yes I love the Purl. Sandi I beg of you please don't change My Knitting Daily!
Thanks for listening to me whine,
Lynette

KimE wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:16 AM

I am passionate about crochet and have been for many years (lace is my thing). But I also love to knit, but I'm not good at it (can't do the fancy stitches, etc). That's why I keep reading Knitting Daily - I'm learning tons!! And that makes me more willing to try new things. Please! add some crocheting stuff to Knitting Daily - to me they just go together.

FrancesS wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:21 AM

I would keep it strictly knitting and have a separate crochet group. I personally usually don't like crochet due to 3 reasons. First, unless done very finely (as on finishing touches on some knits which can be gorgeous)to my eyes it tends to look coarser than knitting. Second, I hate doing it. The single tool as opposed to needles just bugs me. And third, people so often ask me if I am crocheting and it drives me nuts. I probably almost hate it except that I have seen so many lovely bits incorporated into knitting (edges of lace etc) that sometimes I love it. Hows that for contradiction. Anyway I think this list should be knitting only.

Repels-72356 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:30 AM

There's a little more acid in these comments than I have seen before. I use crochet as an enhancement to my knitting, as I did recently when making a striped sweater from Rowan that turned out to be one of the most beautiful things in my closet. Please keep Knitting Daily about knitting...but don't hesitate to mention other arts in connection with it when appropriate. Thanks--Caryl

MartyM wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:39 AM

I hope there is room for everybody here. I subscribed to Knitting Daily because it promised to cover both knitting and crocheting. I hope that this issue is just the start of more crochet inclusion. I do both, but I think in Crochet. I see knit patterns, and I wonder how I can make them into crochet patterns.
Marty Miller

LetticeK wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:44 AM

I knit, weave, felt and embroider and would crochet too if I could ever get the hang of it! I'm not precious about keeping my crafts separate, I love to embroider on my knits or felt my weaving or amalgamate patchwork with knitting, I think it's a way to make more interesting things. I also get bored if I just do the same thing.

I think there's room for knitting and crochet here, my imagination runs wild when I have a ball of yarn in front of me and I'm deciding what to do with it and I don't see why that thing has to be knitting. I don't crochet but I have an open mind and would love to learn so bring on the crochet talk!

SherreW wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:46 AM

I crochet, but when I buy a magazine on knitting I want it to be totally knitting. That is what I paid for. When I buy something on crochet, I don't want knitting. Our knitting group feels the same. We don't want crochet patterns taking space in a knitting mags. Decoration or edging is a different matter, but generally if you combine them then it is Crafts not knitting.

ValerieP wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 9:01 AM

I love crochet. It goes so fast, and I've crocheted since I was about 7 so I can do it without thinking. I am happy to hear about both here, though I prefer a knitting magazine to be 90% knitting (and crochet likewise).

LindaS@5 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 9:22 AM

Sandi, I signed up for Knitting Daily because I am a part-time knitter and can use all the help I can get. I am primarily a crocheter, and was gratified to see that you can use the "C" word without fear. I thoroughly enjoy Knitting Daily and am glad to see inclusion of crocheting. Thank you for a great addition to my email. Linda Shaw

SheilaS wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 9:28 AM

Sandi,
I have been a crocheter for over 30yrs and have been knitting for only about 6yrs. From what I observed on many boards is that crocheters sometimes feel like the step child. They are lumped in with the knitting boards not being allowed to have one of their own. A few years ago BHG decided to discontinue the crochet board and combine it with knitting and it caused quite a stir. Acutually ig got down right ugly at one point. Crocheters asked why they didn't put the knitting board in with theirs if they were trying to save space. "C" comes before "K". I love crocheting but scarey thing is I find myself knitting much more often these days. I think they both have their positive points, crocheting of course is you only have one stitch on the hook to deal with !

SusanR@8 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 10:05 AM

I do both - just like I knit by "picking" and by "throwing." I'm a more well-rounded fiber artist by know as much about techniques as I do.

SheilaS wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 10:10 AM

Wow, I just read through many of the comments. I am not always interested in the knitting post for the day so I skip it and wait for the next one. If crocheting is the post for the day and it doesn't interest you, skip it. I understand your frustration about paying for a knitting magazine and getting crochet stuff but this is a free newsletter which supplies free fabulous patterns. We should be thrilled with what comes our way. This seems to illustrate excatly what Sandi was talking about. Seems a bit "snobby" on the knitting side.
Sheila

Shebikes2 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 10:49 AM

Sandi- Go for it! Add some crochet to the mix! My own journey had me knitting at 8 and then teaching myself to crochet a few years later during the late 60's. I crocheted amazing things. Now, although I use crochet for edgings, I'm not sure that I could "get gauge" to take on a bigger project like a garment that needs to fit. Gone are the days of the kitschy crocheted items and Bad, Bad acrylic yarns. There are lots of cool new designs and beautiful yarns so I am always intrigued. Just need to take another go at it. Any suggestions for a garment project that isn't so dependent on accurate fit? How about a skirt? Thanks!

TheresaH@3 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 10:53 AM

Thank you! I, also, am one of those heretics that both knits and crochets and sometimes - gasp - combine the two in a single project. It is nice to finally see the barrier coming down.

KarenW@2 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 11:16 AM

Wonderful! Great to see more crochet. Keep it coming!

Robyn Chachula wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 11:48 AM

Since it was your goal from the beginning to talk about everything related to yarn, I am thrilled to talk about crochet. I think everyone benefits seeing all the beautiful work your office is publishing, whether that is knitting/ crocheting/ beading/ or spinning. I really can't wait to see what you have to share with us next.

Coley J wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 12:38 PM

I am just now learning both. I find both appealing and beautiful. Thanks Sandi.

LeslieS@2 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 12:40 PM

Crochet has come such a long way; I'm so impressed by the designs I'm seeing now. I've been crocheting a LONG time; just learning to knit but I won't be giving up the hook!

SandyP@2 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 12:59 PM

I love to knit, love to crochet. It seems that at the moment crochet has returned to its infancy after a recent rebirth. I find that the pattern designers tend to assume the project must be finished the same day or the next at the very latest. The styles have a tendency to be a 70's thing, worked on a very large hook and full of very large holes. It seems that the expectation is a crocheter would not be interested in finishing a detailed or elaborate project that would require a time commitment equal to that of a knitting project. I think many knitters would not choose to knit a project that looked like that and therefore have no interest in making friends with crochet for that reason. It's all about style and detail. As long as crochet patterns for garments tend to look like potholders or afghans, crochet will remain a hard sell to those who only knit. Knitters have been spoiled by an enormous access to fit and fashion for their projects. This is changing very slowly for crocheters.

Elizabeth wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 1:52 PM

Wow! I am amazed at all this hostility. Keep up the good work Sandi! I love both crochet and knitting, and have proudly just finished my FIRST crochet scarf. I am trying to learn to crochet. All these skills are inter-related as far as I can see and I agree with the others who expressed their feeling that there is enough hostility in the world all ready. So my vote is keep the crochet in KD or call it Interweave Daily . This site is great.

Bye the way, the crochet dress is lovely, but WAY BEYOND by beginner skills. And I love the cable scarf you designed. Cables are fun and not so hard, just knitting stitches out of order.

DanielleK wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 2:09 PM

I don't have anything against crochet, however, I thought this blog was "knitting" daily, not crocheting daily. Can you come up with a blog just for crochet?

JulieM wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 2:22 PM

1. Key word is KNITTING in Knitting Daily
2. I don't expect to find a Beef Recipe in my Vegan cooking magazines
3. Interweave pays a lot (I hope) to Sandi and all so they should get to advertise their products--Delete the adverts like you TiVo past commercials but still watch the show
4. You might find something to buy you didn't know about

EjS wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 2:23 PM

so glad to see crochet and knitting together on your list...ej

Geminimind wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 2:33 PM

Huzzah! There are times for dpns and times for hooks. I even keep a hook next to me for dropped stitches. I've found the tips on this blog helps with both styles. The pattern size explanations for example. Why not be like the scifi channel which is actually science fiction, fantasy, and horror (but that title was too long)

Pegola wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 2:40 PM

I have nothing against crochet. I don't do much of it any more, as I don't like to do it and I don't like the looks of most crocheted garments. I have no objection to a SEPARATE crochet newsletter, but I wouldn't read it. I thought this was going to be a KNITTING DAILY site, and I've enjoyed it up until the last two - which I was disappointed in and only read for a couple of lines. Please - I have nothing against crochet, but give us back our KNITTING Daily. Thanks.

Mary Jane@2 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 2:43 PM

As a designer of garments and accessories who specializes in crochet wearables, it is disheartening to me to read some of these posts about how crochet is "ugly", and not stretchable, etc. I love the look of knitting and I did learn to knit several years ago, but I absolutely love crocheting and am addicted to it! I can't tell you how many knitters who I have taught to crochet and they say things like "Crochet is faster and more fun than knitting." I'm not trying to say anything bad about knitting, I'm just saying that any knitters reading this comment should try crochet. Yes, there are some who don't care for the look of it, and some who just come out and say "I couldn't get it".
Someone commented that knitters buy more expensive yarns. That reminds me of the cliques in school, when some kids thought they were better than others and snubbed the poorer kids who couldn't afford more expensive clothing. I'm trying to help change all the myths or bad reputations crochet has had in the past because of ugly colors or cheap yarns. If you've turned your nose up at crochet in the past, you need to just open your eyes and see what's being put out there today in crochet.
Sandi, please don't stop including crochet in the newsletters. I was told in the beginning that it would include crochet and that's why I signed up.

Anonymous wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 2:49 PM

I'm all for crochet posts as well as knitting. I like to do them both, although I prefer knitting (nicer drape to fabric, more variety of things to make). Crochet is SO much easier to learn if you've already learned knitting. Well, at least for me. It took me less than an hour (seriously) to learn to crochet, when I remember taking weeks to get knitting down (and I'm still learning!).
What I'd love to see as far as crochet is cool new patterns. There's just not as many cute crochet patterns out there as there are knitting patterns. I'd love to see more of them (and not just blankets).

LisaW@3 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 3:31 PM

I thought I had subscribed to "Knitting Daily" not "Crocheting Daily". Maybe a separate "Daily" is needed for those who enjoy crochet.

JoanM@2 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 3:45 PM

I'm not interested in anything crochet, so I would think about canceling my subscription if it's going to be a combo newsletter deal. I'm not hostile, just not interested in the subject, and while yes it's "free", it still takes up space in my inbox & needs to be dealt with, so I need to be selective about what I subscribe to. Otherwise I end up sitting and adding up unread because they're not enough of a priority for me to read them right away. Eventually the clutter needs to be cleared out, or I feel guilty I'm not keeping up with the output; and meanwhile I'm missing out on the things I WOULD enjoy reading about.... I've been through the cycle too many times already. Only subscriptions I want absolutely 100% make it as subscriptions now.

GJabouri wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 3:51 PM

Hi all - since some of you mentioned the dearth of cool crochet patterns, check out this site: www.stitchdiva.com - one really nice crochet pattern I have from there is the Baroque Jacket. She also has great tutorials there.

Rebecca S wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 3:57 PM

The hostility that people are feeling is not snobbery or dislike of one skill over the other, its just that with a name like Knitting Daily its has a dominance of knitting. Knitters are feeling a bit of bait and switch and crocheters are feeling like their passion isn't qualified because Interweave hasn't done a good job of representing their hobby in this blog and didn't even include it in the name. Crotcheting always seems to get glommed onto something else like a forgotten guest at party. You can't say that this blog is about "fiber arts because there is nothing in it for spinners, weavers or other fiber artists. Interweave needs to decide what this blog is going to be about and name it accordingly. You can't start a recipe book for Cookies and expect to be able to throw in recipes for soup-it just doesn't work. Its the same thing with this blog.

TriciaPendergrass wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 6:22 PM

I think it's cool that some people know how to crochet...I certainly can't do it though LOL...tried once and really bombed out, so I just stick with my knitting and watch admiringly when I see someone crocheting. To me the difference is like ice skating and roller skating. I have been on ice skates but after 15 or 20 minutes my legs and ankles hurt so much...but put me in roller skates and I can go 2 or 3 hours. I don't look down on those who ice skate...in fact I LOVE watching ice skaters...so no matter what your gift is (skating or playing with yarn or whatever else you do), everyone does it differently but are just as good at it. ~Tricia

RuthS@7 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 7:09 PM

Hi, Sandi- This is unconnected to crochet, but a comment on how great Knitting Daily is. I really loved how you previewed the latest issue of IK -- please tell the publishers to consider doing an e-version!! I love how many views of the sweaters were on the website, and I think it could open up a LOT of potential that paper can't even touch.

Ruth Schooley

RebeccaW wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:02 PM

I'm an avid knitter who wants to learn how to crochet. But please, please, give me a knitting daily that's knitting only. I'd totally subscribe to crocheting daily.

CarolineA wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:34 PM

As a mainly crocheter who does some knitting, I tend to get annoyed with crocheting mags/newsletters etc that get monopolized by knitting projects, and feel short changed when there turns out to be more knitting than crochet in a combined magazine. I think keep them separate, even if the crocheting one only comes out once or twice a week. Its an artificial difference in some circumstances, as in free form, but the many ardent knitters would lose interest, judging by the comments here, even though there should be many, many projects and patterns that use both techniques, and that could be greatly enhanced by using both techniques.

SigridA wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 8:45 PM

I am an obsessive knitter, but every summer I get the urge to go back to my childhood roots and crochet. Although the stitches are formed in totally different ways they share the very basic attribute of forming fabric one stitch at a time. I find that the two crafts share a lot of issues, many of which are discussed on Knitting Daily, like fitting, darts, selecting colors etc. How about including crochet occaisionally and finding a way to relate crochet posts to knitting? Personally I find that the lessons I learn from one craft tend to expand my understanding of other crafts and to push my abilities. --Sigrid

teresa@106 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 9:56 PM

Sheesh! Count me as a vote for a return of a sense of humor to the posts! For goodness sake! I crochet, I can't knit, but I read and enjoy Sandi's posts because I learn a lot about yarns, about design and fitting, among other things (I'm dying for "Bertha" to try on some of the garments in the new Crochet magazine). There's a lot of knitting lore here that is irrelevant to me as a crocheter, but that's okay, I skip over it. But, some of you dear knitters, why oh why do you feel so righteous about venting your annoyance when Sandi writes about a sister craft? What if she wanted to talk about knitting with handspun? would you as a non-spinner feel annoyed at having your precious in-box space taken up because you think you are not interested in spinning? Please, let's keep open minds, and extra please, share a sense of humor! Somebody posted that link to the YOUTUBE Woolly Bullies (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JZcUjYpjKZs) -- a hoot! 'Nuff said, and now, back to adoring our yarn and thanking Sandi for brightening up our inboxes! (PS I love love love Doris Chan's new book!)

Angeleyz14 wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 10:19 PM

YaY! Sorry couldn't help myself. I knit and crochet and can't see why there are battlelines drawn at all. All depends on what is in your head as to which may work out better. And you can make such pretty edgings for each other. THANK YOU for bringing up the 'dreaded' crochet word in knitting daily!

JosephineG wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 10:24 PM

I am a crocheter. I love to crochet but cannot fine nice children's patterns that are not for infants, or are blankets or scarves. 99% of the pattern books are for knitting.
Can you steer me towards some good books.

GeriP wrote

on Sep 20, 2007 10:34 PM

I don't think I am going to read the comments anymore for a bit, going to have to think about it. I was so excited about the enthusiasm and tips, the sharing, the best of our community. Ok I am still waiting for bust dart tutorial so I can keep going on on my purple tomato.... But reading tonight just made me really disappointed. I'm not going to defend crochet, picture/design worth a thousand words, the beautiful designs in interweave crochet, I subscribed immediately. I do both. I combine both in my designs. I was glad to see some fiber sisters out there enjoy crochet/knitting for different purposes. Don't forget the bead folks who now put beads with their knitting/crochet. I loved all the positive energy from your comments. Coming home from work tonight to escape a bit and reading a lot of the undertone made me blink. We do for the joy, we do to relax, we do to give from our hearts and hands. All the hats, blankets, etc. given to charity. I wonder if the recipients stopped to consider if the blanket warming them was knit or crochet, or were they just appreciative of gift? Perspective. G

JeanieP wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 5:11 AM

Knitting & Crochet are both needlework and they do work well together. Also, on the cable needle, I like a "j" hook, it flops down and waits nicely for you to pick it up and I often dangle it through a necklace or earring so it's handy too!
Jeanie

Meeb wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 8:31 AM

i don't find anyone's comments here to be particularly surly or antagonistic. (although that may be because i spend a fair amount of time mud wrestling in the local political bbs forum) sandi asked people for their opinions. here they are. how about an article on how to take a cute crochet pattern like that dress and translate it into a knitting pattern? or vis versa... there must be somebody out there who can do such things...sandi?

BeckyE wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 11:12 AM

Sandi, I enjoy this blog, and eagerly rush to see what the topic is each day. I love knitting and crocheting, among the many hand arts, so anything you want to include in the daily discussion is great with me!

Love that lace dress!

JoanC@2 wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM

I am primarily a knitter, but would be delighted to see some interesting crochet from time to time. If Lily Chin can do both, why can't we? I say DOWN WITH the knitting purists!

AnnieM@2 wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 5:15 PM

I too can knit and crochet, but have always preferred crochet. For one reason, I figure why put the time in to knit when with a machine I can do it so much faster! This isn't true with crochet, as they don't have a machine that does it! That said, I saw a reason to be able to do both, so taught myself to knit when I was 16. I'm 50 now, and have crocheted for about 42 years! Please continue to post about crochet upon occasion, I for one, love it!

MichelleD wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 5:34 PM

more crochet! I love them both equally!

LisaW@5 wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 6:33 PM

I don't crochet--not by policy, but because I just haven't gotten around to learning much. I don't have a strong preference over whether Knitting Daily remains a crochet-free zone. What I WOULD like to see are items on the subject of how crochet and knitting can work together. I've put some crocheted edges on some things, and I've never been able to get it to look right. If I could figure out how to do it properly, maybe I'd take on a crochet project one of these days.

NorahW wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 6:42 PM

I hope that someday someone at Interweave will develop a Crochet Daily feature. That way there won't be any conflict with knitters wanting no crochet, or crocheters wanting more. Of course many of us will read both.

eulalieknight wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 7:35 PM

I love to crochet & learned 44 years ago when I was 6. I love working with thread. Some friends showed me how to knit a few years ago and I had a hard time with it. Then I tried holding the yarn like I did when I crocheted and it was much easier. My friends asked me who had taught me continental style, but I told them it was crochet style. Margaret

AIRknitter wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 7:48 PM

Honestly, as long as I get to read something from Sandi at least once a week I am a much more delightful person to be around.

AIRknitter wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 7:51 PM

After I hit, gently, the submit button I remember the reason i had wanted to make a comment. Went to the book store on lunch hour today and there was the Interview Crochet mag that Sandi talked about. There was only one copy left, so I brought it home with me. (Yes, I paid for it first.)

MarshaK wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 8:17 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing articles about crocheting, expecially regarding edges on sweaters. I only know the basics of crochet, but wouldn't mind learning more about it.

Marsha

LauraA@3 wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 8:31 PM

I'm a knitter. I simply don't care for crochet. While I can admire an edging here or there, I can't be torn from my knitting to try to learn something else. I vote for knitting 24/7/365!!

LaurelD wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 8:54 PM

I also do both crafts. I'd like to see a newsletter on combining both crafts into a single project. Maybe a scarf or shawl. It seems to be they both have advantages that could be used together. Not just a knitting project with crocheted edgings, but something more substantial.

What do you think? Make twice the number of friends or enemies? We do, after all, combine beads into knitting (and crocheting presumably) so why not try to blend knitting with crocheting?
What would be the advantages? Disadvantages? Which one uses a special yarn most efficiently?

Thanks,

Laurel
knitting scarfs, sweaters, and hats and crocheting afghans, collars, and with my eye on a bedspread after we no longer have a cat.

JeanneM@2 wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 8:59 PM

Here's my comment: even though I'd never purchase a magazine or book on crochet (not an elitest knitter, just don't need another hobby), I find that an email with features from a publisher that I enjoy can be easily deleted (note one finger) or read, depending on the mood. So go ahead and send beading and crochet stuff to my knitting daily address, and I'll happily delete them if I don't feel like looking.

ChristineC wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 10:39 PM

I'm actually a crocheter first and foremost. But I joined KD because I have just started teaching myself to knit. I always thought it looked too hard to even try! But I'm actually getting the hang of it and don't know why I waited so long to learn! I have to say I think I will love knitting and crocheting equally! Feel free to check out my blog at CafeCrochet.net where I've actually blogged quite a bit about knitting recently!

Jean Ashley wrote

on Sep 21, 2007 11:50 PM

I'm late to this discussion, as I've been sick and haven't been able to do get around to everything in my inbox, but I have to say that I have experienced anti-crochet sentiments from a LYS in my area. Since then, I've called them the Snob Shop.
I do both, and I even do Tunisian crochet--which creates drape and fabric feel just as well as knitting, thank you very much.
Knitting gets a lot of attention since "the cool kids" started picking it up, but crochet and other fiber arts are just as valid in terms of creative expression.
Personally, I don't really like knitting much, but I've read this newsletter since its inception because I wanted to. Simple as that. If there comes a time when I don't want to read it, I won't. If you really "want it your way", conforming to your own desires completely and exclusively, write your own newsletter/website/book/manifesto/whatever.
For me, I will keep reading Knitting Daily, would read a "Crocheting Daily" if offered, though I would hate for the content of either to be compromised by having to have two newsletters. I think Sandi is doing a great job, and should talk about anything she wants, frankly.

KellyB wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 1:34 AM

I'm a 30-year knitter and crocheter, taught myself to tat when I found my great-grandmother's tatting books (so gorgeous and French!), have had my turns at needlepoint, cross-stitch, petit-point, and now have been lured into spinning my own yarns from fibre suppliers, cotton balls, I fear I'm even eyeing up the cat for her sheddings! The point is that fibre is fibre (yes, I'm Canadian) and sometimes we need to learn a new trick or two to complement a project. Whether it's blanket-stitching a buttonhole, single-crocheting an edging, or making i-cord for a camisole, there's room for every technique. Besides, how often do we go searching through our pattern stashes and magazines for that "right" pattern only to come across one we hadn't expected? So go ahead, crochet that frilly lace cap sleeve onto that knitted v-neck top. I always compare lace-knit panels to the scallops and picots that come so easily with a hook. Chicks with sticks (one or two) rule!

FayeH@3 wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 8:19 AM

The C word! With Crochet you don't have to worry about dropped stitches and if you have to rip out you can pick back up really fast. With knit you might be lucky enough to have to start all over again.

KathyS@6 wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 9:16 AM

For 25 years I only crocheted. About 8 years ago I learned to knit, fell in love with it, and thought I would never crochet again. Thanks to wonderful new
wearable crochet patterns, I now crochet more than I knit. It's wonderful to see so many who do and enjoy both!

KatieS@3 wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 9:31 AM

I don't have a problem with crochet . I just don't DO crochet. Would like to someday, and have done some very limited crochet. But I don't think that crochet-only patterns need to show up in Knitting Daily. They're two completely different crafts - sisters, but not the same. People who knit don't always crochet, and people who crochet don't always knit. Articles on crochet techniques involved in knitting, or patterns that are mostly knit with limited crochet (edgings, etc.) are fine with me, but pure crochet? It's just not knitting. It's wasted time and space where I'm concerned.

MaryT wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 9:34 AM

I knit and crochet. But since I try to budget the time I spend on the internet, I have to make tough choices about what I read and don't read Daily.
I think several people have made the point that it's not about hating crochet, it's about not being interested Enough. And practically speaking, if it turns out that KD posts were about crochet half the time, or even a third of the time, I'd probably start forgetting to check it. But that's probably not going to happen, based on what Sandi said. The way I heard the post, maybe crochet would come up Occasionally, say, 10% of the time. Now, I might not always be pleased to see it, but that's little enough I won't get frustrated or bored. (If only I knew enough crochet to make that dress!) And that sounds like a compromise I can live with.

StephanieP wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 9:35 AM

My mother taught me to crochet when I was 6. She tried to teach me to knit when I was 7, and again when I was 8, tried again when I was 9, but I soooo loved crochet, I just never could get the hang of knitting. This summer I taught myself to knit (actually, LACE knit) and I am enjoying the process very much. What I would like to see are projects that use KNIT and CROCHET in the same project. Because I like the process AND the project. AND because I finally figured out how to knit. After all these years.

Abycat wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 9:56 AM

Covering Crochet as a finishing technique to a knitting pattern is fine. However, I agree with those folks that would like to keep this a "KNITTING" community. I don't recall the Knit Daily mission being stated as including crochet. The initial emails indicated this was a knitting endeavor. I would not purchase a magazine that was half and half. If Interweave ever melds Interweave Knits Magazine with crochet, I will not renew the subscription. In fact, I was peaved that a previous issue was devoted to crochet. I felt ripped off. If I wanted a crochet magazine, I would have bought one. I would definitely NOT renew my subscription if crochet started popping up in the magazine on a regular basis. Understanding that "Knit Daily" is as much a marketing tool for Interweave Press as it is a community for knitters it is no surprise that the company would want to cross crafts to get the best exposure for their publications. However, I have little free time and would prefer to focus on Knitting. Please keep crochet to a minimum! I don't apologize for my strong feelings. I have been knitting for 15 years and have no desire to crochet!

ConnieS@4 wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 10:25 AM

I knit and crochet and I have to say that I prefer crocheting over knitting and I was thrilled to see mention of it. To me yarnwork is yarnwork. I think they should be mentioned together. I like seeing the crochet stuff. I'd like to see more. Thanks

prkennealy wrote

on Sep 22, 2007 12:35 PM

Count me in as a contented crocheter-I was delighted to find a fun pattern for a felted vest. Thanks ! Now please be nice everyone!

AnneT@4 wrote

on Sep 23, 2007 10:09 AM

Funny you should mention crochet... I just started a beginner's class. And I'm only about 8 - 9 years into knitting even though I'm fiftysomething. It's another yarn craft with lots of possibililty. And there were many "knitting" patterns with crocheted edges or embellishments. So I decided to see what it was all about. I'm enjoying learning something new. I will not weigh in on where to post knitting and crochet information and patterns. No strong opinion either way.

PhyllisP wrote

on Sep 23, 2007 5:16 PM

I have to echo some of the comments of the knitters here, but for different reasons. It is indeed frustrating to be a devotee of one technique, but have to wade through all kinds of patterns, tips, etc., for the OTHER craft, whether it's in a magazine or on a Web site. That's been my experience over the decades as a CROCHETER. Books that promise to be about knitting and crochet, but only offer one crochet pattern. The books and magazines about knitting that outnumber crochet at a rate of 10-1. Logging into the Interweave Crochet site to look at free patterns and having to sign up for something called Knitting Daily because, you're all right, Interweave doesn't have a Crochet Daily. I'm a person who knits and crochets, but prefers crocheting and, trust me, knitters are not lacking for inspiration and patterns, on the Web or elsewhere. Crocheters, sadly, are only recently beginning to get the same attention.

MaraH wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 9:21 AM

I started crocheting when I was 8 and just started knitting 3 years ago (I am now 38). I love them both! I have to admit I have been knitting much more than crocheting since I learned to knit, but only because it has opened up a whole new area of yarn craft to me! I think having some occassional crochet info on Knitting Daily would be lovely so you are tending to the interest of all your subscribers.

Maybe the solution would be to have a Knit Post Archive and a Crochet Post Archive so the articles are kept separate, like the patterns. Then the Knitters would not feel like they are "weeding through" the Crochet stuff to get to their true hearts content. Reading through the posts here that seems to be one of the most common irritations to knitters and crocheters alike -- the other craft muddying up the search for information.

At any rate, the information you provide you provide on this site is so SO fabulous, I cannot even imagine be so bothered by the C-Word as to not come visit your site several tims a week (even when I should be working). It is not exactly a hardship looking for information and patterns for yarn -- it's not like we are looking for a cure for foot fungus or something!

Thanks so much, Sandi, for everything - even a little C.

GloriaE wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 10:00 AM

As a long-time knitter who crochets a little (VERY little), I don't have a problem with talking about crochet in a knitting column. However, the problem is that crocheting takes over the whole column -- notice the pattern downloads. Crocheting is very useful when used with knitting -- for edgings, for stabilizing shoulder seams, for other embellishments. It is also sometimes better for toys and small items. That is how I would like to see crochet used in Knitting Daily, not as whole garments which I suspect most knitters are unlikely to do.

Lennette wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 11:44 AM

I love this statement "knitting and crochet sometimes seem like two grown sisters who've been having an ongoing feud since one sister stole the other sister's Barbie doll back in grade school". I like this statement because I knit and my sister crochets. I think adding some crochet to this is fine and doesn't bother me although I don't understand crochet and can't do it. Keep up the good work.

TaraS wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 2:23 PM

I'd love to see that crochet dress on a variety of people a la The Corset album! It's a gorgeous dress, but I'm wondering how much it clings to the pudgy bits?
Oh and to answer your question: keep the crochet bits coming!

RebeccaA wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 4:18 PM

I am an avid knitter, and I love the way knitted garments look, but I like crochet now and then as well. One of my wiser teachers advised, "Don't stereotype yourself!" That can apply to the fiber arts as well as anything else. I have recently tried handspinning and hope to learn how to weave one of these days.

Cath.tucker wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 4:39 PM

I do have a bag or a basket for every project in progress! And a project in the car, in the town house & in the country house!
A portable one and a stay-at-home-watch-TV one, and a have-to-concentrate-on-this one... And I do finish them eventually!
And I've discovered that old nylon-knit panties with worn-out elastic removed already form a tube which can be cut evenly (or not!) and seamed across the bottom. One pair (no comments on size please!) makes a lining for a one-project bag. Needles don't poke thru, tiny items don't slip thru cracks, fabric doesn't shrink, slides easily over balls of yarn, etc. etc.
- Cath

pmmknitco wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 4:43 PM

I use a Bagsmith bag that stands on it's own. It's big enough to carry one or two projects which are, of course, in their own little bags - Port-a-pocket, zippered vinyl bags, Knitting Nest.........

ValerieS wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 4:56 PM

Re knitting bags: I have fourteen bags that I use as knitting bags at last count. Many of them have UFOs in them, which may place me in the running for the crown of UFOs. My favorite knitting bag is a handmade zippered bag made in Thailand of handwoven ikat silks, stitched together into a patchwork and embroidered on the borders of the patches. It washes and looks wonderful no matter what. I bought it from a Fair Trade organization in 2004, a wee Christmas gift for myself.

StephanieM wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 4:57 PM

One can never have too many knitting project bags. I do keep project materials sorted in very large freezer zip bags and depending where I go I just move these from bag to bag - beach, town, home, plane...

CatN wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 4:58 PM

Okay, I had to laugh when I read this KD about bags. My husband, who is a scientist, just never gets it and never will. He keeps giving me the evil eye when I look at, yet, another object with which to carry my knitting within. My daughters have been born with the same affliction and their motto is: "a girl can never have too many bags!" So, when I got another weird relative present in the family adult Christmas exchange (a neoprene wine bottle holder with handle) I turned it a knitting needle case. I even went out and bought another one because it was so handy for that. Now my husband really thinks I'm a nut case.

M.M wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 5:16 PM

I left my comment on the earlier post, but just had to include here as well. If you don't like a topic, just skip it. I cannot believe the entitlement attitude of some posters--this is a FREE website and if Interweave wants to plug some of their other magazines, books, etc. so be it. You readers need to get over it!

Sandi, I love knitting AND crochet, and you're doing a wonderful job of exposing us to many crafts: felting, lace, cabling. I think there's something here for everyone.

Good job

Kdavison1 wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 5:18 PM

Thank you, thank you for the knitting bag pattern today. I have been drooling over it online and will be starting it tomorrow. A girl can never have too many cute knitting bags to get her in the mood to create!!

DoloresB wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 5:19 PM

I also have several & currently trying to get the courage to cut an entralac sweater I made my husband and make a bag from it. Great topic, look forward to your ideas for lining the bag.
Dolores

BettyM@3 wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 5:28 PM

My favorite knitting bag came from the hardware store. It is a canvas plumber's bag with rubber feet. The handles, bottom and corners are leather. I use smaller bags from the cosmetics department to organize all the notions.
By the way, are you familiar with the acronymn PIGS? It stands for "projects in grocery sacks". Don't we all have a few?

SusanJ@4 wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 5:52 PM

I think it's hysterical that you have a project that you could carry in that pink bag (in my opinion, way too small not to mention too pink plus I always knit on circular needles so that shape is unnecessary). I have more UFOs than I care to count. I generally carry some sort of knitting w/ me wherever I go (so I'm really in the market for a purse/tote which happily doubles as a knitting tote), so I stash whatever bit I'm working on in a gallon zip-loc bag (and have a box of 2 gallon bags for those larger projects). One can buy cute little zippered vinyl pouches of approximately the same size, but I could never afford the nearly $20 X a really big number that it would take to keep each of my works-in-progress in one, and I can't possibly play favorites.... However, when I'm packing my knitting (i.e. several projects) for a weekend away or something, I use a bag w/ 6 outside pockets that i got last winter from Garnet Hill, or I throw everything in one of the re-usable bags that groceries (and Trader Joes) sells.

Rebecca S wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 5:53 PM

Omigoodness! This bag is adorable! I love that it incorporates knitting needles! This is on my list to make for gifts for my knitting friends! Thanks Sandy!

Bobseldest wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 6:09 PM

Bags and more bags...when I read the words "Serious Knitting Bag Habit" I knew I had met a kindred spirit. I too examine every bag I see for potential, and yes, the ones in the cosmetics sections usually are pretty functional. In fact, I bought a set at Burlington Coat Factory that actually was a 3 bag set! The larger one opened like a book with multiple compartments on both sides (zippered no less), another envelope size one that holds lots and lots of needles, etc., and the smallest one holds things like markers, scissors, tape measure, gauge and so forth. Talk about being in hog heaven...and they will all fit into my larger tote that carries my UFP(s), newspaper, wallet, water bottle and the kitchen sink.
However, I finally had to stop looking at every bag I saw when I realized I had so many that they created a stack in one corner of the closet that was shameful. So now when someone says "I want to learn how to knit" I say wait right here, run grab one of the many bags lurking in the dark, fill it with a set of needles (usually Twin Birch size 10 or so)and a skein of yarn that's left over from some other life. See, I figure if I divest myself of enough bags, enough yarn, I might be able to justify buying new bags, yarn, brains...when money is once again gracing my empty pockets.
Of course, I'm currently saying the same thing about the pile of raw fleece in the corner...if I can get most of it spun before the end of October I can justify going to SAFF (Southeastern Animal Fiber Fair for the non-spinners amongst us).
BTW, I look forward to reading your posts every day, they give me ideas and often a good laugh as I recognize myself in your words.
connie in North Carolina

MelanieB wrote

on Sep 24, 2007 6:20 PM

Hi Sandi,
Like you, I am in the double digits of UFO's and have accepted my adult onset ADD as just another factor of my personality. Bring on the bags!

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