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Sarah, rockin' the Sylph

Today we have the second half of the Knitting Daily Galleries you voted for, showing garments from the Spring 2008 issue of Interweave Knits:

The Holly Jacket Gallery

The Sylph Cardigan Gallery

The Auburn Camp Shirt Gallery

As with the Flutter Cardigan, the Printed Silk Cardigan, and the Mirabella Cardigan, I have provided a bit of individual commentary for each of our Gallery Gals, as well as overall tips on sizing for each garment.

List of all Galleries



Toni helps Sarah button up the Auburn

Coming Up on Knitting Daily...

Questions, questions: Do you have a question about our galleries? Leave a comment! I'll be posting answers to your questions in upcoming issues of Knitting Daily.

In fact...did you know that your fellow commenters are brilliant, funny, and often have GREAT tips? Yup. True. Go ahead, read the comments. There's lots more sizing and fitting info there. Do you have feedback or a helpful hint? Leave a comment and let us all know!

Readers' Choice Awards: Last Day to Vote is Feb. 19th

Vote for your favorite Interweave Knits pattern! The top five will be published in a free Knitting Daily ebook next month, so let your voice be heard.

Sandi Wiseheart is the editor of Knitting Daily.

What's on Sandi's needles? Halfway through the second sleeve on the KD Secret Project. (I am truly grateful sometimes that humans do not usually come equipped with four arms.)



Posted Feb 14 2008, 04:00 PM by KD Sandi
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QuinnP wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 5:14 PM
These galleries are phenomenal! Thank you for showing us how things look on real women (and Bertha) with real bodies!
AnitaM wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 5:14 PM
Wow! Great post yet again. And Sandi - you are looking FABULOUS!!! And I totally agree - the Sylph is my favourite too. It just couldn't be cuter. Thanks again to the Gallery Galz - beautiful as always. :)
E.L wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 5:33 PM
In the Sylph Cardigan, Sarah looks terrific, but the front appears to "ride up" a bit. Should it have enough "positive ease" so that the ruffle hangs straight all around? And is it designed so that the front panels are actually longer than the back?
GraceS wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 6:02 PM
Thank you very much for the gallery and for all the extra thoughts and information. They have been extremely helpful. I feel like you guys are really listening to us via the comments and are working hard towards a positive change. I also appreciate the timing of the galleries so that we can have time to think about and knit the sweaters in time for the warmer weather.
CeciliaG wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 6:08 PM
I absolutely love the comment section at the bottom of the galleries - so invaluable and great information for those planning to knit the designs! :)
Miss minerva wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 6:11 PM
Sandi - you look GREAT in general and fantastic in that cardi. We're nearly twins now in terms of upper body fit, so keep trying on those garments! funny, i'm a bit disappointed in the look of the holly cardi on other women, but completely taken by the sylph! i think i will make one of those instead (with the requisite adjustments - thank you so much for the notes on fit!!). please pass on to all the gals my sincere appreciation for their efforts!
KellyN wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 6:18 PM
Woah Sandi, you are a fox! Congrats to you, as I'm sure it wasn't easy. As someone who has just taken off 30lbs herself, I know how delightful it is to see those knits look so flattering. BTW, I hadn't even considered the Slyph til seeing it on you. I can't wait to get my issue!!
GailD wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 7:08 PM
First gallery set where to my eye the sweater looks better on Bertha than on anyone else! Every sweater of the lot! Now that's a bit scary...
CherylD wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 7:16 PM
I really appreciated this series on obtaining the proper fit. It emphasizes the importance of looking at more than just a bust measurement to determine size. Nice to see 'real women' in great fitting garments. Thanks!
MissyL wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 7:20 PM
I thoroughly enjoy the sweater galleries. I gain alot of insight into fitting garments, I do not have a vast array of knitters around me to draw from. This is great help to me. Thank you for all your brave models. I love it, keep it up!
MaureenJ wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 7:22 PM
What a dilemma! Like another commenter, seeing the preview and galleries took much of the fun out of reading my IK. But I can see the benefit of showing the galleries early enough for the non-subscribers to be able to find the issue still in the stores.

Terrific coverage of these garments. I, too, was concerned that most of the styles were too young for me, but now, with some of the modifications discussed by you, I could see making more than one of them. And they all have design elements - darts, ribbing, shaped waists, etc. - that are new to me in knitting. I was especially enamored of the Sylph when I saw the side and back views on Sarah, which showed the beautiful shaping above the ruffle better than the front views. So I have to give a much higher rating to this issue of IK, purely because of knitting daily, Sandi, than I would have. This is just so immensely helpful. Why have none of the magazines done it? Perfect use of the internet community.
Denise~ wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 7:41 PM
I've got to say that the galleries are absolutely wonderful! They truly give me a better idea how a specific sweater would look on me when I can read the measurements of the models and compare. What an invaluable service! Thanks
JuneP wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 7:49 PM
I love seeing all the tops on the models and would like to see more back views as well.
June
BettyC wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 8:39 PM
Thank you to all the models and Sandi for all your hard work.

Sandi, you look wonderful and congrats on your weight loss!!

Now, I just wish I was built like BERTHA!!
EmilyW wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 9:08 PM
I love the galleries! The Sylph cardi wasn't my favorite, but to my surprise, I thought it looked good on all the ladies in the gallery! Also, Debbie looks FABULOUS in the Auburn Camp Shirt! I love it open like that.
TashaP wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 9:33 PM
I really really love the galleries but....in the cases where the sweaters don't fit your models, you tell what you would do different - make the waist an inch shorter, shorten the hemline, etc etc. I guess for me it's easy to see those changes & agree when they have the garment on. How do you know that you'll need to do it for yourself before you start knitting? I'm an intermediate knitter but I can't picture what each step of my pattern is creating - sometimes I have to follow blindly. Any suggestions?
AnneP wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 9:54 PM
I don't mind a magazine full of sweet, thin, young thing patterns -- after all that is why there is chocolate and vanilla. Do us a favor though? Either start using size 14 models -- the average size woman in the US today -- or quit insisting that 'these sweaters look good on everyone!' They don't. No one garment does. And most of us are too intelligent and self aware to be anything other than insulted by such statements.
BarbaraM wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 10:45 PM
From all the negative comments that are popping up regarding the 'size' of the models selected for this gallery, I gather that people forgot what Sandy warned earlier in the "Peek behind the scenes" post. Here is her statement:

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So ladies--CUT HER SOME SLACK!!!

Sandy, you rock and I appreciated all the work you do getting the galleries together.
BarbaraM wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 10:50 PM
Okay, not sure WHY my copy and paste from the post I referenced did not come across. But here it is:

"Granted, we could not put these particular sample sweaters on a wide range of models--the biggest sample, the Mirabella, was 37", and there wasn't time to make a larger garment. We'll talk about the issues of sizing and shaping next week, when all the Galleries are ready for you."

Again, this what Sandy posted before any of the Galleries were up.
AnnaM wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-15-2008 11:54 PM
I agree with everybody about how helpful the galleries are! Thanks! I also agree with Gail that the Sylph is riding up on several models. One reason Bertha looks well in most of the garments is because she is standing still and straight, no pretty, sassy fun stuff, and she is a STANDARD SIZE! NONE of us are standard sizes, only those lovely girl-children who haven't done much living or child-bearing, or whatever.....but anyway, back to the "riding up" issue. Sandi love, those ladies need BUST DARTS made with short rows at the sides! The garments are not "hanging" correctly, and it shows. Bosoms in standard sizing are made for "B" cup ladies,( and many times that is a small B cup)--Most fuller bosoms need
length as well as width, and standard
sizing (which most good designers faithfully follow) does not allow for this fact. Another thing I disagree with just a tad is the waist position -- it can be flattering and more diminutive on a longish-waisted person to have the waist curve just a little higher than true, and the hips can flare a little sooner, for us "high hip fluff" ladies. I've just retired from a career in Couture-level dressmaking, and good fit is wonderful!
AnnaM wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 12:09 AM
I know I go on, but one more thing about the "riding up" factor, SHOULDERS! and how the sweater is "hung" from the model's shoulders. A LOT of fashion stylists don't take the trouble to settle the garment well on the model's shoulders--it often droops off, causing the neckline to spread, which draws up the center front line. And some models have quite wide shoulders (that's the reason clothes "hang" well on them), and with hand-knits, if things aren't placed well, that will distort the garment, especially the lovely snuggy ones. But does anyone wish we were back in the '80's with knit boxes and drop sleeves? Not I, said the little red hen!
Happygoo25 wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 2:55 AM
I am petite and I am so happy that dropped shoulders are in the past. It is so nice to see fitted sweaters. I learn so much just by reading the patterns and I can apply that knowlegde to all of my other knitting projects. Thank you so much.
TSmith wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 6:32 AM
Love, love, love the galleries.
It is super of IK to present the sweaters on "real" people.

And, Sandy, nice job with the weight loss!
SusanH wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 7:33 AM
Funny how personal taste is so different. I wouldn't change anything if I were knitting the sweater for Toni. I think the way the collar sort of sits up is very nice and even more Audrey Hepburnish.
MARYS wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 7:39 AM
Sandi, another great gallery. A thought for the knitter who is not sure how to adjust these patterns to fit correctly on there body, find a local yarn shop and be a good customer. They appreciate your continued business and might help you pick the correct size to knit with some adjustments for your body type. Even if your purchase time from them to adjust the pattern for you it is well worth it. We all put hard earned money and hard to find time into these projects and to have reaped no rewards is heart breaking. Know your body type, not every style is for every body. And we are seeing that from this gallery.
SusanH wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 7:42 AM
I think the Auburn Camp Shirt looks best on Debbie, worn as an open, overshirt. In fact, I think the entire pattern would benefit from being converted to a flyaway style with only the top four buttons. My previous comment about a sweater looking best on Trish was for the Holly one -- I forgot the post was for the entire gallery, not just the first sweater I looked at.
KittyD wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 8:11 AM
I liked a few of the sweaters from this issue when it came, but so far I haven't seen one "real" person who looks good in any of the sweaters. This is a disappointment. I hope it won't be a trend for interweave.
EmilieL wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 9:00 AM
Thanks Sandi ! Please, please,please, always have Annie participate in the galleries... I am 32 inches in the bust area, and I am always concerned about the smaller size being too big for me... I am certainly not the only one in this situation, and, by the way,all of you, it doesn't mean we all are anorexic or on a strict diet or addicted to sports; we just have to live with the genes we were given, and being too small can be as much of a problem as being too big when it comes to clothes and knitting...

The long waist comments (Tony I think) also apply to me, so the galleries were twice the help for me this week. Thanks again ! They really make me more confident in my knitting, and they help me to better visualize the end result I am going to get when I knit a piece to fit my body.

As for the weight loss,Sandi, congrats ! You look awesome, as always, with that glow and energy of yours, but since it is supposed to be best for your heart and health, I am very happy for you !
CF wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 9:36 AM
I've loved seeing all these sweaters on different body types and sizes. One thing I will say is that all of our clothing looks better when we wear proper fitting and supportive undergarments :)
BarbaraH wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 10:36 AM
I really don't like the "sylph cardigan" on anyone but Bertha and on her it looks like something from the early 20th century. It's not one I would ever make
Bsproat wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 11:10 AM
Like everyone else, I thank you for doing these galleries -- what a pleasure to see how the sweaters look on different sized/shaped women.

I'm wondering why only one model in the camp shirt gallery (Sarah) closed it with only one button, as it was shown in the magazine -- and she buttoned it much higher, which I found less flattering. I also notice that on everyone who buttoned it all/most of the way, it gapped between buttons -- even a little on Bertha! This is one of those times when the gallery helps by showing me that something that looked great in print, on the professional model, doesn't fare so well in real life. Useful info!
ElaineM wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 11:32 AM
Your photo gallery is just great. The comments really help to adjust for a personal fit. Knitting daily is a great post. They are always informative and usually with a sense of humor. Great job!
AP wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 12:28 PM
I'm surprised how much I like the black colors colors under the Sylph vs. the white under it! I would have never realized this if I hadn't seen all your "models"!
AnneC wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 1:02 PM
This is so, so helpful. Since seeing the galleries I now have a better understanding of which ones will suit me (the Holly jacket, for one), and how to consider issues like ease. Thanks for a brilliant idea.
AnneC wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 1:02 PM
This is so, so helpful. Since seeing the galleries I now have a better understanding of which ones will suit me (the Holly jacket, for one), and how to consider issues like ease. Thanks for a brilliant idea.
Put a Sock in it wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 2:26 PM
Wow! The models are all lovely, but these garments don't flatter any of them. They just look ill-fitting to me.

I'm not anxiously awaiting delivery of my copy of this issue.
knittingbox@yahoo.com wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 6:27 PM
I love the sylph, so I'm so glad you showed it. And while I wasn't crazy about the Auburn in the mag, I loved it on all the gallery models.

The thing that I keep noticing, is that torso length seem to be as important as bust size, perhaps even more important. Do you think that could be a standard measurement given in the mag? I'm 5'2.75" so I'm very aware of how length affects fit.

And congrats to Sandi for losing all that weight! Not that you didn't look fabulous before!
Rachel Ray wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 8:07 PM
Can I tell y'all how much I LOVE the galleries? I have similar measurements to one of your lovely models, and it is so helpful to be able to imagine what these garments might look like on me. One suggestion - could you list the models heights as well?

And Sandi, you look AWESOME - way to go!
SharonR wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 8:11 PM
Congrats, Sandi! Great job! And thanks for the Galleries. :)
JenniferS wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-16-2008 8:14 PM
Sandi! You are looking awesome! It's really hard work to lose enough to drop that many inches! Congrats!
Fliss wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-17-2008 6:21 AM
Great gallery pictures as always - thank you. And the nicest bit is the gorgeous smiles from you all. Makes me feel all cosy! Fliss
ElsaX wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-17-2008 11:59 AM
I do enjoy the galleries very much. A number of the comments made by Sandi about the fit is about things that you only find out after you've tried the garment on. How do you work out before you start knitting that you need to make this particular design an inch longer, raise the ruffle or so on?
CathyW wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-17-2008 2:13 PM
For people wondering how to know where adjustments need to be made before they knit the sweater, I've got a couple ideas.

1) Look back at Monday's article about using your existing sweaters to help you knit - or go shopping and try on different styles; make notes about how they fit and how they don't.

2) You can use the schematic and cheap knit fabric to make a muslin of the garment and try it on - with enough pins you might not even need to sew it. If you'll forgive the (gasp) crochet content, there's instructions here.
Highpeakpasofino wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-17-2008 4:59 PM
This past October, I knit my wonderful husband of 20 years the Cobblestone pullover. He absolutely loved it, and it was the first sweater I ever knit that turned out just as I imagined it would. On February 9, we lost him very suddenly to a heart attack. one of the small comforts i keep returning to, is that we had his sweater placed in his casket with him. I can never thank you enough for how wonderful your patterns are. You all at interweave have given something very real to hold onto at this time. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Stacey Danner
LindaK wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-17-2008 10:47 PM
I too love the galleries. I think the ability to see the sweaters on different body types (long waisted, pear shaped, rectangular, etc.) is very helpful. The suggestions on what to change for each of the models are also helpful.

I totally agree with the posts on bust darts. Garments ride up in the front because there isn't enough fabric to go over the bust. This is a life-long learning experience for me as nature has over abundantly endowed me in the bust department. I'm constantly adding bust darts to every garment I make for myself.

I have to say that I am not in favor of negative ease. Knits do stretch, that is true. However, a too tight sweater will distort the knit pattern whether it be stockinette or fancy cables. The models with negative look to me as if they don't have enough sweater to go around their bodies. I can see the buttonholes gaping, and the button bands turning into scallops rather than straight lines. That's always a sign of too little fabric. I agree that you can get away with much less ease with knits than you would with woven fabrics. I also think that the dreaded gaposis makes one look a little more "hoochie mama" than most of us want.

It also makes for an uncomfortable garment. I know, I have often tried to squeeze myself into commercially made garments where I didn't have quite enough fabric to go around the bust. The button band would lie flat if I didn't breath, but it gapped, or buttons constantly popped out of the buttonholes if I moved. I ended up constantly tugging at the garment or hunching over in the vain hope that the button wouldn't pop. Needless to say, those garments didn't get very much wear. I'd hate to put my very precious knitting time into something I wore twice and then hid in the back of the closet because it wasn't fun to wear.
Leah wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-18-2008 8:30 AM
Just as an example of how different each of our perspeectives can be, I thought Sylph looked awkward on Sarah (tho she may consider modeling for IK on a more permanent basis because everything else looked great on her). It seemed too short for her body and that was only accentuated by the low-rise jeans. I LOVE her boots but if I were Sarah and making this for myself, I would lengthen the waist.
Canoegirl wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-18-2008 4:53 PM
Fascinating comments. I really enjoy looking at the galleries. I am finding, though, that seeing the sweaters on real people tends to make me want to make them. Usually I only find one or two patterns that I want to make, not six. I'm eagerly waiting for my copy to arrive.
GraceJ wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-19-2008 1:16 PM
What exactly does it mean when it says so-and-so is "long waisted"? Isn't the waist the narrowest POINT on the body? I am confused by this language... I think you are trying to say that the distance from waist to hip is longer than average. Or perhaps the distance from bust to waist is longer... but I can not be sure because this is not clear. Please clarify!

Then, when describing where to start the waist shaping in relation to this "long waisted" body, it would be helpful to meantion if the pieces are knit from the bottome up or the top down... that way I can visuallize the changes better if I don't yet have the magazine.

Oh yes... bust darts please! I need to modify these designs for my D cup!
JudeM wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-19-2008 6:43 PM
Um, I'm actually trying to post about the poetry contest, but I don't know how to do that. Anyway, I already have a question which the rules don't seem to answer: you can only use each word once, but does that apply to things like "the," "s," "-ing," "i," "a"??? Help, please. Thanks.
Teri wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-19-2008 7:22 PM
Thanks for the gallery. This is very helpful in demonstrating ease (I'm still a new knitter and learning new things all the time).

I have question about cup size. Should cup size be taken into consideration when determining ease? If so, any guidelines?
I have a 36 inch bust but only an A cup, so while my chest is rather full, my cup size is not. Should this figure into determining what ease I should work into a garment?
Eharper wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-19-2008 7:56 PM
Is it just me or is it the whole point that the sample garments aren't supposed to look perfect on all of the real models!? The galleries are supposed to help us decide which size to knit, so, if you see a model your size, and the sample looks too tight, then you will knit the next size up.

I'm really discouraged by all of the negative comments about these designs. This, and the last few issues have been the closest to my personal style yet. I have the longest interweave "to do" list I've ever had. I really hope these negative responses dont cause the magazine to go a different direction. It's the ONLY one out there I knit from, and that's beacause the designs are fresh and fashion forward. I would have spent $25 on this last issue if it had been a new book at my local yarn shop. Keep it up -- I love these beautiful designs.
CathyW wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-19-2008 7:59 PM
Teri G,

Cup size is more of an issue for larger women - the standard assumes a B cup, and an A is not so different (in theory, about an inch) that it would affect anything but the most fitted tops. Sadly I have the opposite issue, so I'm not sure what advice to give you for the situation where the one inch makes a cute sweater into a lousy one.

For larger women, it's sometimes suggested to select a size based on the "high bust" (chest measurement right under the armpits) and make extra room with bust darts. This, I do know how to do, but can't fit the details into my 500-character limit. :)
ShirleyE wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-20-2008 12:31 PM
Re: Poetry Contest Announcement

In answer, an original (not plastic) poem. My outraged muse just jumped on the keyboard. I hope knitting poets & poetic knitters will question even the playful, well-intended strangulation of poetry. Is this why poetry is dying?

TRY POETIZING TO PLASTIC

Now witness a sad day for poetry, that knitted lace of tongues.
Poetizing is a gossamer pursuit of holes yarned over.
But lately came interwoven rules to yield phrases all dense, o'er-felted.
Who dares now set our gauge to fifty words?
Magnetic? Ha! Junk, cutesy, plastic!
Unshackle words! Release the stitches of our muse!
Teri wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-21-2008 8:02 PM
Cathy W,
Thanks for your response. I don't know anything about bust darts and it looks like there is probably a reason for that! I will look that up. I haven't knitted a sweater yet, but I think I'm about ready to try and your comments and these galleries are a huge help.
Thanks again!
Air.blueskys wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 2-25-2008 1:53 PM
WHY NO NEW EMAILS FROM KNITTING DAILY?
CindyL wrote re: Spring Knits Gallery, Part 2
on 3-25-2008 6:51 PM
did i miss the ebook with the readers choice awards?

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